Media Discussion - 2023/24

[citymad]

What a glorious summer we have in store

We can all sit back happy and content and proud with the unprecedented 4 in a row magnificence of our team on the pitch last season while we watch the finest legal minds in the world argue successfully on our behalf that the PL and the hasbeen clubs that control it and drive its unlawful regulations don't have a fucking leg to stand on.

And as a thoroughly enjoyable bonus we get to read the faux outrage of dafties like Herbert and Delaney and Ronay as they write article after article in which they sound more and more upset about the behaviour of big bad City - the tiger invited to dinner who's going to eat his hosts (Ronay in full childlike tantrum meltdown mode !!)

It's great to be a blue :-)

Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with your post Axel it doesn’t alter the fact that these cretins have the freedom to write non stop drivel and bad press about us. We lose in the end because we all know if you repeat a lie enough in the minds of the masses it soon becomes the the truth. The only way we can win this is by taken these horrible bastards to court.

 

[Maly]

like many i get frustrated by the quality of certain journalists and also terrible websites like MUEN.

i have a question though

what would the majority recommend as a worthwhile news source for day to day City related news ?

At the moment, bluemoon and a tight twitter list of @slbsn @prestwichblue @realtolmie @bluecitybrain @mancity @SwissRamble @bluemoon_mcfc are my main sources

I’d highly recommend Rawk & Red Cafe as a couple of great sources of hilarity

 

[VOOMER]

Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with your post Axel it doesn’t alter the fact that these cretins have the freedom to write non stop drivel and bad press about us. We lose in the end because we all know if you repeat a lie enough in the minds of the masses it soon becomes the the truth. The only way we can win this is by taken these horrible bastards to court.

Hopefully the world won't end tomorrow, so these lickspittles have to earn a living. Good look with that when no one wants to read your shit or let you into a press conference

 

[Axel Freed]

Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with your post Axel it doesn’t alter the fact that these cretins have the freedom to write non stop drivel and bad press about us. We lose in the end because we all know if you repeat a lie enough in the minds of the masses it soon becomes the the truth. The only way we can win this is by taken these horrible bastards to court.

Nah I don’t agree that we lose in the end if Joe Public is stupid enough to believe the guff that’s plastered all over the media. I don’t care if stupid people respect us or not.

But like you I’d love to see us threaten these clowns with legal action and /or ban them from the ground. To watch them squirm and backtrack would be immensely enjoyable.

It might happen sooner than we think.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

This thread has jumped a few pages this week. Has anything happened?

 

[wolviedinho]

This thread has jumped a few pages this week. Has anything happened?

City have destroyed the world…that’s all.

People are crying red tears and chucking themselves from the top of domino’s.

God has come back and released a blue plague on the unwashed red sore losers.

Oh yea, Simon Jordan is still a prick and wants us expelled. Souness used to be ok. The rest of the online media are overreaching and widely spreading disinformation on a city rule challenge.

Pretty much a normal week for the champions of England.

 

[Metalartin]

Very large one club Cities who can pull big numbers for a Wembley game like say Coventry but pre Keegan Newcastle were getting under 10K and even now we average more than them & even in Leeds glory era in the 70s their crowds were very large but no bigger than ours

Exactly and if they are going to cherry pick a couple of seasons in the mid 90s(Newcastle) or early 00s(Leeds) where they both spent beyond their means and ended up struggling financially for years after. They'd be fooling themselves because City would be no different in the same positions, the attendance data shows it.

Neither club had to compete with a club as big as United next door, in fact, they were both pretty much the main attraction in their entire regions geographically.

In the North West, there is the two biggest English clubs just for starters(could have been case closed). But then there is Everton of course... And back then(90s-early 00s) Blackburn, Bolton were probably both still bigger than Middlesborough and either Sheffield clubs were too. That just leaves Sunderland for Newcastle, who weren't anywhere near challenging. Unless I'm forgetting someone?

How quickly did some Newcastle fans and Leeds fans develop the rag like mentality btw? Considering how briefly they challenged and neither of them won anything at all(not even the smaller cups) if I remember right. City have dominated, are actually way bigger than both globally these days and they still don't go around belittling other traditional topflight clubs. Mad really.

PS/Open question for the data nerds: I know Newcastle outspent United when they challenged but did Leeds? I know it doesn't technically matter for my argument because we know it was money they didn't have by what happened after. I was just wondering, I might check myself when I have the energy for it.

 

[Maly]

Exactly and if they are going to cherry pick a couple of seasons in the mid 90s(Newcastle) or early 00s(Leeds) where they both spent beyond their means and ended up struggling financially for years after. They'd be fooling themselves because City would be no different in the same positions, the attendance data shows it.

Neither club had to compete with a club as big as United next door, in fact they were both pretty much the main attraction in their entire regions geographically.

In the North West, there is the two biggest English clubs just for starters(could have been case closed). But then there is Everton of course... And back then(90s-early 00s) Blackburn, Bolton were probably both still bigger than Middlesborough and either Sheffield clubs were too. That just leaves Sunderland for Newcastle, who weren't anywhere near challenging. Unless I'm forgetting someone?

How quickly did some Newcastle fans and Leeds fans develop the rag like mentality btw? Considering how briefly they challenged and neither of them won anything at all(not even the smaller cups) if I remember right. City have dominated, are actually way bigger than both globally these days and they still don't go around belittling other traditional topflight clubs. Mad really.

PS/Open question for the data nerds: I know Newcastle outspent United when they challenged but did Leeds? I know it doesn't technically matter for my argument because we know it was money they didn't have by what happened after. I was just wondering, I might check myself when I have the energy for it.

Leeds won the league in 92 mate

 

[Metalartin]

Leeds won the league in 92 mate

That was before the PL era, more specifically before United's era of dominance started(hadn't won in 25 years).

Edit: I thought my context was clear. But let me clarify, the rags weren't showing the chest they are known for now in 92, the PL era has distorted the view of a lot of what came before it. Attitudes did change IMO and United along with the other big sly 3(perhaps even Sky themselves) are a big part of why. Leeds' average attendance in 92 was 29.5k while winning a title, City's in that same season was 27.7k, while finishing 5th. Plus none of the spending comments which took place in the late 90s-early 00s for Leeds would make sense in any other context than the PL era. Even out of context though, they won nothing else. In fact, it was their first and only major honour since 1974(their title win before it). So in no way would that justify the attitude. A club with 5 major honours total to City's 9 at the time. City, who have since then, went and dominated for over a decade of PL football, besting Fergie, slapping United down, Liverpool and Arsenal(all 8 times, one of those came runners up, delicious really). Winning way more than double Leeds' total number of major honours in that period alone and still our fans don't act like that.

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

The early years of the PL coincided with the worst slump in our history, that was particularly unlucky for us.

Just when rag revenues were going ballistic, we on the other on seemed to be locked into a never ending death spiral. Thanks to FHL and JD we avoided the indignity of bankruptcy. We got a bit lucky with Thaskin and then we got incredibly lucky when we won the lottery with HHSM.

Our ten year transformation into a world class club has coincided with the death of conventional journalism. This is also a bit unlucky.

In their desperation to achieve click metrcs it's fair say any semblence of journalistic insight, objectivity and balance has gone. National journalism will go the same way as local, within three years it will be gone. What the landscape means for everything we care about, not just City, but life in general, literally nobody has a clue. Thanks to AI, the likes of Lawton, Deloony, Harris etc will be redundant, their skill set completely devoid of economic value.

We've seen journo dung like "Pep will fail in the PL" "Haaland won't score in the PL", "City will never win the Champions League". Just three examples from the thousands of tropes spewed out by journalists in a desperate attempt to maximise clicks. There is a reality disconnect between what people would like to happen and real world events. So that's why we are smeared as guilty before the IC has finished. It's difficult to stomach the daily dose of City hatred but IF we understand what is going on and why, it's easier to brush it off.