Media Discussion - 2023/24

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The media shite has started, Liverpool cheated, it should have been a penalty blah blah blah. Nobody fucking cares, the game is over, we take a point and move on. Tense game and I can see for a neutral it might have been exciting, but as @IrishBlueSince92 said it lacked quality, especially from us. I feel we got dragged into a frantic and emotional game which suited Liverpool and lost our composure and discipline.

Ederson has pushed it a bit this season and become a bit erratic. I said after the derby if he makes a challenge like that at Anfield it's a penalty and so it proved. Okay, a different type of challenge but it was down to him piling in and not using his head. If he's injured maybe a spell out might give Ortega a chance to shine. If he does he may struggle to regain his place.

As for the non penalty I can see why it wasn't given. Equally I wouldn't have been surprised if it was. Again a fucking stupid challenge so late in the game. We really need to stop giving refs and the opposition gifts. Thankfully this time Oliver was on our side for once.
 
paulchapo said:
The media shite has started, Liverpool cheated, it should have been a penalty blah blah blah. Nobody fucking cares, the game is over, we take a point and move on. Tense game and I can see for a neutral it might have been exciting, but as @IrishBlueSince92 said it lacked quality, especially from us. I feel we got dragged into a frantic and emotional game which suited Liverpool and lost our composure and discipline.

Ederson has pushed it a bit this season and become a bit erratic. I said after the derby if he makes a challenge like that at Anfield it's a penalty and so it proved. Okay, a different type of challenge but it was down to him piling in and not using his head. If he's injured maybe a spell out might give Ortega a chance to shine. If he does he may struggle to regain his place.

As for the non penalty I can see why it wasn't given. Equally I wouldn't have been surprised if it was. Again a fucking stupid challenge so late in the game. We really need to stop giving refs and the opposition gifts. Thankfully this time Oliver was on our side for once.
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The VAR bloke was for a change. Youre right though, stupid contest for the ball on the edge of the box by a forward who was trying to defend
 
ChicagoBlue said:
What are you disagreeing with?

Looking at that game, plus the respective run-ins, how could you not be more positive about the Liverpool performance than ours?

It’s funny but the ONLY thing in our favor at the moment is the sentiment that “City always come good at this time of year!”

Are you seeing that? Consistently? Where? Who? Against whom?

Objectively, the City-Arsenal game might be better for Liverpool that us, and they both look far more “on it” than us recently!

This might be the year we win the Treble AGAIN…or sweet fuck all, because we are playing a little Jeckyl and Hyde at the moment and no-one seems quite sure who which City team will show up.

- The rest of the PL season is going to be a challenge.
- The FA Cup has regained its panache now that it’s one of the few trophies the Top 6 can win.
- The CL looks to have morphed into the ACTUAL Top 8 teams in Europe for a change, which means no easy games left!

We have it ALL within our grasp, but on current form (as good as the lack of losses has been) it’s hard to NOT believe we are going to fall short in at least 2 of 3 competitions.

Fingers crossed this is just the Anfield Hoodoo once more and that we can come back from the intl break with some more endurance in our legs and fight in our hearts!
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“The only thing in our favour at the moment is the sentiment that City always come good”

So not a 19 match unbeaten streak then, isn’t that in our favour ?

Or having the top goal scorer in the league banging goals in left right and centre.

Or having earned more points in the previous 10 games than either of our rivals.

Or having a perfectly managed squad approaching the business end of the season virtually injury free
 
urban genie said:
It's flavour ffs


you are an imigrant to the US from Manc so spell in English at least not the backward septic shite :-)
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I’m not sure if this will sound defensive given your smiley or simply factual, but…

1) If we are going to talk about how to spell, the word “immigrant” has a second “m,”

2) My keyboard is English (U.S.) otherwise my everyday communication would have constant spellcheck issues, and

3) I have absolutely no idea what “backward septic shite” is?!

Regardless, I will do my best not to provide offence in the future.
 
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Axel Freed said:
“The only thing in our favour at the moment is the sentiment that City always come good”

So not a 19 match unbeaten streak then, isn’t that in our favour ?

Or having the top goal scorer in the league banging goals in left right and centre.

Or having earned more points in the previous 10 games than either of our rivals.

Or having a perfectly managed squad approaching the business end of the season virtually injury free
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All good things, but we have not been convincing squeaking some of those victories, our top goal scorer didn’t look interested, the number of points isn’t important, unless it’s one more than any other team and I’m not sure if we are perfectly managed or not, but we look a bit ragged atm.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
It’s not that we don’t get reported differently, it’s that what was said was true.

One man’s tsunami is another man’s fearless!
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The point I was trying to and clearly didn’t make is the love in for Klopp and Liverpool and the way it is reported. It’s very different to the way Pep or any team members face questions in the pressers.

Watched about 5 mins of the Q&A’s after today and with the dippers it was about how good was their defence, what a future talent they have, what a loss Klopp will be.

Move on to JS interview and they were asking about how big was Ake’s mistake for the back pass?

Same match, same teams why thr difference?
 
IrishBlueSince92 said:
I didn’t think the match was a classic today
Commentators were going on about how good it was
Yes it was tense but it lacked quality throughout I thought
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Yep. It was poor from both teams. Lots of misplaced passes and rugby scrumming in the ctr of the circle.

Media and red fans love the rushing around like lunatics that Liverpool do.

Harks back to the days when they were kids. No cohesion. Due to the reds rabid animal approach a quality game of football couldn't break out. But, maybe, that's klopps point. Stop us playing our game a reduce it down to their level.

How that man gets the reputation he has is extraordinary. Real base level football tactics.

Oh, and swerve the back pages today, peeps. They are all focusing on Dokus kick in the penalty area, rather than the "quality" game. No mention of Mcallister not offering any challenge and just standing there, though.

I can't wait for klopp to be gone. He a fucking throwback to the 70s.
 
The_Maverick said:
The point I was trying to and clearly didn’t make is the love in for Klopp and Liverpool and the way it is reported. It’s very different to the way Pep or any team members face questions in the pressers.

Watched about 5 mins of the Q&A’s after today and with the dippers it was about how good was their defence, what a future talent they have, what a loss Klopp will be.

Move on to JS interview and they were asking about how big was Ake’s mistake for the back pass?

Same match, same teams why thr difference?
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Coz the media and so called pundits fucking hate us…..
 
burning blue soul said:
Yep. It was poor from both teams. Lots of misplaced passes and rugby scrumming in the ctr of the circle.

Media and red fans love the rushing around like lunatics that Liverpool do.

Harks back to the days when they were kids. No cohesion. Due to the reds rabid animal approach a quality game of football couldn't break out. But, maybe, that's klopps point. Stop us playing our game a reduce it down to their level.

How that man gets the reputation he has is extraordinary. Real base level football tactics.

Oh, and swerve the back pages today, peeps. They are all focusing on Dokus kick in the penalty area, rather than the "quality" game. No mention of Mcallister not offering any challenge and just standing there, though.

I can't wait for klopp to be gone. He a fucking throwback to the 70s.
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An awful lot of it was hoofball from Liverpool
 
Perhaps it's me being thick but I'm still processing the MOTD analysis of Van Dijk's 'world class' defending of a situation involving him dealing with Haaland's run and shot in the first half..

Perhaps other Blues might be able to help me understand why it was deserving of such praise?

Haaland picked up the ball and turned on the half-way line to run at goal. Van Dijk backpedalled all the way into his own penalty area, clearly keeping an eye on Haaland but not closing him down. Haaland then gets to the box and takes the shot open to him with his favoured left foot but aims it straight at Kelleher in goal, snatching the strike rather than getting away what you young Blues would call a 'thunderb*st*rd'.

Now, at what point was 'The World's Greatest Defender - Ever' in control of that situation? Or have I missed a masterclass of imperiousness, as outlined by the MOTD pundits?

Pundits.. One of the wooden planks stored in the eaves of my garage could do a more insightful job than the majority of them.

Any thoughts/help would be most appreciated..!
 
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johnevans said:
Perhaps it's me being thick but I'm still processing the MOTD analysis of Van Dyck's 'world class' defending of a situation involving him dealing with Haaland's run and shot in the first half..

Perhaps other Blues might be able to help me understand why it was deserving of such praise?

Haaland picked up the ball and turned on the half!way line to run at goal. Van Dyck backpedalled all the way into his own penalty area, clearly keeping an eye on Haaland but not closing him down. Haaland then gets to the box and takes the shot open to him with his favoured left foot but aims it straight at Kelleher in goal, snatching the strike rather than getting away what you young Blues would call a 'thunderb*st*rd'.

Now, at what point was 'The World's Greatest Defender - Ever' in control of that situation? Or have I missed a masterclass of imperiousness, as outlined by the MOTD pundits?

Pundits.. One of the wooden planks stored in the eaves of my garage could do a more inciteful job than the majority of them.

Any thoughts/help would be most appreciated..!
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If van Dijk is so great at defending and reading the game it doesn’t explain how City’s opener happened where Stones stroked it at the near post. Haaland gets a better shot off when he runs at Van Dijk it’s a different story all together.
 
johnevans said:
Perhaps it's me being thick but I'm still processing the MOTD analysis of Van Dyck's 'world class' defending of a situation involving him dealing with Haaland's run and shot in the first half..

Perhaps other Blues might be able to help me understand why it was deserving of such praise?

Haaland picked up the ball and turned on the half!way line to run at goal. Van Dyck backpedalled all the way into his own penalty area, clearly keeping an eye on Haaland but not closing him down. Haaland then gets to the box and takes the shot open to him with his favoured left foot but aims it straight at Kelleher in goal, snatching the strike rather than getting away what you young Blues would call a 'thunderb*st*rd'.

Now, at what point was 'The World's Greatest Defender - Ever' in control of that situation? Or have I missed a masterclass of imperiousness, as outlined by the MOTD pundits?

Pundits.. One of the wooden planks stored in the eaves of my garage could do a more inciteful job than the majority of them.

Any thoughts/help would be most appreciated..!
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In my eyes, both players did very well in that situation, it was a case of 'great football all round', hoping not too sound too cheesy. Van Dijk showed great composure and Haaland fashioned good space against an experienced centre half.

Haaland starts 10 yards away from Van Dijk and you can see the centre half isn't too sure what to do but is erring on trying to steer him wide. Suddenly Haaland prods it slightly right and Van Dijk starts sprinting, and has a tiny (it's tiny) nibble at the ball and Haaland's feet as he jinks back left.

If Van Dijk had made any more movement toward Haaland at all, he would have either been completely beaten, leaving a one on one, or taken out the man, resulting in red (presumably). The other outcome is that he would have actually won the ball cleanly, but that was less likely b'cos he was trying to pick up pace and, i assume, he (van dijk) made the decision winning the ball cleanly was too unlikely.

So now we're ~25 yds out and they're getting side by side, a full on tackle is completely out of the window now, Haaland's done well to here. Van Dijk decides to go directly onto the body now, which is sensible defending, it's now or never to unsettle the shot, which is becoming inevitable.

it's debatable whether Haaland should have taken a final touch or gone a tad earlier and aimed for a low corner, but i thought it was excellent play from both players. I watched the game with 2 ex semi pros and they were both absolutely loving that tussle.
 
johnevans said:
Perhaps it's me being thick but I'm still processing the MOTD analysis of Van Dyck's 'world class' defending of a situation involving him dealing with Haaland's run and shot in the first half..

Perhaps other Blues might be able to help me understand why it was deserving of such praise?

Haaland picked up the ball and turned on the half!way line to run at goal. Van Dyck backpedalled all the way into his own penalty area, clearly keeping an eye on Haaland but not closing him down. Haaland then gets to the box and takes the shot open to him with his favoured left foot but aims it straight at Kelleher in goal, snatching the strike rather than getting away what you young Blues would call a 'thunderb*st*rd'.

Now, at what point was 'The World's Greatest Defender - Ever' in control of that situation? Or have I missed a masterclass of imperiousness, as outlined by the MOTD pundits?

Pundits.. One of the wooden planks stored in the eaves of my garage could do a more inciteful job than the majority of them.

Any thoughts/help would be most appreciated..!
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My thoughts exactly
 
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