Media discussion - 2024/25

MillionMilesAway said:
Quite a lot...

List of association football statues - Wikipedia

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I asked Copilot if LIEw was a **** & this is what it said….

Title: **In Defense of Celebrating Excellence: A Direct Reply to Jonathan Liew**

Dear Mr. Liew,

I recently read your piece on the spectacle surrounding Manchester City and their celebrations of success, including the statue of Rodri and their Ballon d'Or accolades. While your insights into the "theatre state" are engaging, I find it necessary to offer a more balanced perspective.

Football, much like any other sport, thrives on the passion, dedication, and remarkable achievements of its players. The statues, parades, and celebrations you criticize are not acts of self-aggrandizement by those in power. Instead, they serve as symbols of recognition for the hard work, talent, and contributions of individuals who have left an indelible mark on the sport. Celebrating achievements is a time-honored tradition in football, with clubs like Manchester City, Manchester United, and Liverpool demonstrating the deep connection between their successes and their supporters.

Historically, clubs, towns, villages, and birthplaces across England have honored their legends with statues. From **Thierry Henry at Arsenal** to **Dixie Dean at Everton**, these monuments celebrate the players' contributions and preserve their legacy for future generations.

Your assertion that these celebrations are out of place ignores the significance they hold for fans and the community. For many, football is more than just a game; it is a source of pride, identity, and unity. The parades, statues, and awards ceremonies are ways for clubs to show appreciation for their players' efforts and for fans to share in the joy of their team's success. Honoring players like Rodri with a Ballon d'Or recognition or a statue is a testament to their hard work and a source of inspiration for aspiring footballers.

Moreover, it's concerning to see your take on these celebrations, given your role in shaping public opinion. Your article reflects a tendency to overlook facts in favor of sensationalism, resembling the role of a court jester more than that of a serious journalist. What kind of profession allows someone to be consistently wrong without facing any repercussions? I’m grateful that journalists have a safe space to stay busy, rather than choosing careers that demand precision and accountability like pilots, surgeons or 99% of occupations your readers comply with.

In conclusion, while it is important to scrutinize and question the actions of those in power, we must also recognize and celebrate genuine achievements. The theater of football is not just about spectacle; it is about celebrating excellence and inspiring future generations. Let us not diminish the significance of these moments by reducing them to mere acts of pomp and circumstance.
 
More from Liew….

….and there is the small but real possibility that in January they could be found guilty of serial rule breaches, stripped of their league titles, relegated to amateur football and indelibly associated with one of the most infamous episodes of cheating ever seen in modern football.
 
Shirley said:
More from Liew….

….and there is the small but real possibility that in January they could be found guilty of serial rule breaches, stripped of their league titles, relegated to amateur football and indelibly associated with one of the most infamous episodes of cheating ever seen in modern football.
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But a far more likely possibility that nothing will be heard in January but later in the year, cleared of the most infamous attack on a member club based on fear & loathing.
 
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter|Matt Dickinson, Chief Sports Writer


September 21 2019, 12:01am, The Times



Liverpool paid a £1 million settlement to Manchester City after their Premier League rivals made a complaint that their scouting system had been hacked into.

The confidential settlement took place in September 2013 after it was reported that City had employed computer-espionage experts to see if the system had been spied on.

The scandal would appear to be the biggest incident of alleged misbehaviour by one top-flight club to another in the Premier League’s history.
 
Shirley said:
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter|Matt Dickinson, Chief Sports Writer


September 21 2019, 12:01am, The Times



Liverpool paid a £1 million settlement to Manchester City after their Premier League rivals made a complaint that their scouting system had been hacked into.

The confidential settlement took place in September 2013 after it was reported that City had employed computer-espionage experts to see if the system had been spied on.

The scandal would appear to be the biggest incident of alleged misbehaviour by one top-flight club to another in the Premier League’s history.
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Swept under the carpet, City compliant by accepting the 1m an amount they didn't even need.
Shame they didn't push for real punishment.
 
Yesterdays lesson in media manipulation..

Ziegler and his story of State owned clubs being made to sell to new owners. He is of course factually incorrect but what does he do? He sensationalises it so all the bedroom tarquins, rags, scousers (insert any hater of city) hang on to his very last word therefore creating further anti city rhetoric. It just keeps us niceley in the public eye with his negativity. I did chuckle when having my morning brew yesterday thinking how many city fans will be panicked by it instead of just again taking it for what it is. Media control of how you feel.

Since we lost to Spurs and threw the 3 goals away last week I have not listened to or read any story with the slightest hint of bitterness or negativity towards City.
Please fellow blues. I emplore you to try it.
 
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