Media persecution of Raheem Sterling

Who has been considered a great english player the last 20 years?

Beckham

a one trick fucking pony that I have never heard any local match going rags I know say a good word about and think giggs, keane and scholes carried him.

Beckham looked good scoring decent free kicks but was fucking average at best

Sterling is consistant in our team throughout the season, a random international with players that are at times average to shite alongside him he doesn't star, so fuckin what.

He is a better player than rashford, lingard, delle and lalana. (All could take the 10 postition) if he isn't rated or played then it is englands loss, not ours.
 
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SilverFox2 said:
Seems strange to say that In a season when we broke PL scoring records we should have scored many more. RS is not alone in the City team regarding missing sitters.

If Pep cannot cure this problem and RS is to be judged just on his striking record for England then I cannot see him being chosen because England do not generate the chances that City create.
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Don't forget - the very best strikers only score 1 in
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Tom_mcfc said:
When I have watched him for England though he doesn't often do them things you list? You are talking about City Sterling rather than England Sterling but I agree I would happily have him and Rashford starting ahead of the players you mentioned.



Why does he have to take that form? Maybe because it is his job? The same way Rooney would get blasted for being a different player for England than he was at United.
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This same sterling in a game he was 'poor' in. Below is highlights of the england and nigeria friendly where the was one constant in most of england's best chances but apparently he doesn't do it enough for england.

http://mscom1.matchat.online/player/50283
 
BlueAnorak said:
Don't forget - the very best strikers only score 1 in
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I'm sure your stats are correct but getting those attempts on target has been Raheems and City problem all season.
Kane scored because the goalie made a mess of his shot and a lack of positional awareness by the goalie allowed Rashford to score.
Cannot fault Raheems value to England other than his inability to get his shots on target.
 
schfc6 said:
Sorry but I've tried to converse with you before it's impossible.
I think Rashford is average at best. I'm not alone. His own manager does.

He was awful the other night, he scored a nice goal. Other than that he did nothing. Hence my point about his striker partner pretty much watching the whole game while Rashford just ran down blind alleys.

I can't judge Sterling on England form. I don't think he's ever had two 90 minutes in a row.
He should be given a proper role and time to adapt. Kane doesn't pass, Ali doesn't pass, Lingard has zero vision and Henderson passes sideways.
Get Stones on the right of a back three, Walker on the right and Delph in midfield and you'd see a much better Sterling.


I say 'constant threat' because of his intelligence & movement. Much like Henderson or Ali, that obviously is beyond your vision.

As for Sané and Germany, their manager is renowned for picking the tried and trusted. Hence people like Podolski having about 200 caps.
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Exactly, a full post contradicting everything you “believe” in. Have a lovely evening x
 
Tom_mcfc said:
Should I waste my time watching the clip where I imagine it ends with him lacking composure on the final ball/shot?
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You replied to a post of someone who said this and I quote

"England without sterling have no one who can beat a man or really hurt a team with his directness and runs in behind. Yes he needs to improve his final delivery / finishing, but there is no one else who can open up and hurt defenses like he does."

Your response was that he doesn't do that for england and does that only for city. I've linked a video of someone who did exactly that in a game you said he was 'awful' but was in fact the one mostly involved in breaking behind and getting into the goal-scoring positions even if his final action was often poor in that game. Don't forget this is also a game where he set up a decent chance and assisted the goal. You talk about others moving goalposts but when there's video evidence that contradicts your opinion suddenly its because he lacks a final ball/composure which wasn't even the point the poster you replied to tried to make as he acknowledged that's the area sterling can improve on for england. So if the point you are making is that he doesn't break the lines and get into dangerous positions as often like he does for city, that highlights clip clearly proves you wrong. If its that his final decision/pass can be better in those situations compared with his club then that would make more sense.

But for some reason you have it in your head that he's not really good for england because he doesn't score regularly or his stats are not great. Anyone who watched the friendly against Italy that doesn't have any bias for/against will tell you he was england's most threatening and creative player, linking up the midfield and attack and the Italians recognised and tried to foul him any chance they got to slow his influence but he didn't score/assist so he must've been shit. I will be the last to make an excuse for him when he doesn't play well and I thought he was particularly wasteful in the final-third against nigeria. But anyone who've watched any of the friendlies leading to the World cup and thinks he is not the most likely to create or influence the game for england through his intelligence and movement must have some blinders on.
 
asaluttar said:
Best player in the 2014 world cup, especially in the Italy game.
Assisted almost every goal for England in the friendlies leading upto 2016
In the actual Euro, created a rare Eng chance v Russia with his pace and movement (and crucified for his miss) but nobody seemed to notice how Russia began to play much better and scored after he was subbed
Match he didn't play - Eng drew 0-0 with mighty Slovakia
Iceland - created the goal by drawing the Pen, the only chance created by Eng in virtually the entire game.

Yes, he plays far worse for Eng than for Nan city.
But he is still one of England's best 2-3, and his treatment by the press and other fans is despicable.
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Sterling got the pen and was subbed at half time against Iceland, yet he gets mostly blamed for the defeat. Ffs he only played half the game.
 
Callum Ramsey said:
You replied to a post of someone who said this and I quote

"England without sterling have no one who can beat a man or really hurt a team with his directness and runs in behind. Yes he needs to improve his final delivery / finishing, but there is no one else who can open up and hurt defenses like he does."

Your response was that he doesn't do that for england and does that only for city. I've linked a video of someone who did exactly that in a game you said he was 'awful' but was in fact the one mostly involved in breaking behind and getting into the goal-scoring positions even if his final action was often poor in that game. Don't forget this is also a game where he set up a decent chance and assisted the goal. You talk about others moving goalposts but when there's video evidence that contradicts your opinion suddenly its because he lacks a final ball/composure which wasn't even the point the poster you replied to tried to make as he acknowledged that's the area sterling can improve on for england. So if the point you are making is that he doesn't break the lines and get into dangerous positions as often like he does for city, that highlights clip clearly proves you wrong. If its that his final decision/pass can be better in those situations compared with his club then that would make more sense.

But for some reason you have it in your head that he's not really good for england because he doesn't score regularly or his stats are not great. Anyone who watched the friendly against Italy that doesn't have any bias for/against will tell you he was england's most threatening and creative player, linking up the midfield and attack and the Italians recognised and tried to foul him any chance they got to slow his influence but he didn't score/assist so he must've been shit. I will be the last to make an excuse for him when he doesn't play well and I thought he was particularly wasteful in the final-third against nigeria. But anyone who've watched any of the friendlies leading to the World cup and thinks he is not the most likely to create or influence the game for england through his intelligence and movement must have some blinders on.
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Word of advice, don't bother replying to Tom on this thread, it's pointless .
 
andyhinch said:
Word of advice, don't bother replying to Tom on this thread, it's pointless .
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You only need to look at the first 20 pages of the Raheem Sterling 2017/18 thread to clarify this . So many posters had decided he was not up to City level. Despite goal after goal and numerous assists, they looked for ever decreasing reasons why he was not up to it. In the end they disapeared , or decided it was only through the Guardiola influence that he was successful
Sterling will never be a complete player, but the parts are increasingly cohesive. Tom, can't now change his mind, " he doesn't play well for England" That is his vocation, same as Hoddle, two opinions. He may be right. @mosssideblue thought he was right also.
Time will tell.
 
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