Media Thread 2020/21

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I heard that Alan Ball talked very highly of Paul.
I seem to remember Alan Ball was very vocal of his criticism of Paul Hince at the time of his sacking saying some of his pieces turned the club against him, nothing to do with adding City to the list of clubs he had relegated of course.

There were plenty of blues around at the time who also thought that Hince was bitter towards Francis Lee claiming his arrival was the reason Hince was shipped out to Oldham in his playing days. Nothing to do with the fact that he wasn't good enough to sustain a career at top flight level of course.

It was a long time ago and maybe I'm talking bollocks but that's how I remembered it.
 
The entire modern noveau football fan’s equating of history to mean trophies began with Liverpool fans at the turn of the Millennium and was originally aimed at Chelsea following the Abramovich takeover.
Not only were these entitled melts mortified at seeing league titles suddenly being racked up by a club they traditionally considered beneath them while their own empire crumbled, they were further triggered by their home town hero Gerrard agreeing to move to Stamford Bridge, only to later change his mind after being pressured by organised crime figures in the city.
Thus their “You aint got no history” song was born and belted out whenever they played Chelsea.
It was all they had left.
Nonetheless, it was a message and position that would be amplified by compliant client journalists and the explosion of social media and online football outlets and forums, and thus adopted by other fading redshirt establishment fanbases as their complacency and decadence meant they could no longer compete on the field of play.
When City came along, it was the final straw. And not only with trophies.
For Gerrard to Chelsea, read Sterling, Tevez, Adebayor and Nasri to City. And unlike Chelsea, we got our men.
The supporters of LFC, united and Arsenal - the three clubs who were responsible for the very invention and concept of the plastic, glory hunting modern TV fan - suddenly decided that not only was the past another country, but it was better than the one they now found themselves living in.
And they all had their former players and media mouthpieces onside.
Like Les McLeod, the ‘Creme Brulee’ one hit wonder has been from The League of Gentlemen, they preferred living in a rose-tinted version of the past rather than accepting the grim reality of their present and the unpromising outlook of their future. To paraphrase Les, “Remember when my team was good? Football, its a shit business isn’t it?”....
Notwithstanding its factual inaccuracy in all aspects, as the recent FA Cup trophy documentary has demonstrated, ‘No history’ says more about them than about City. It is an entitled, embittered and terrified howl into the void. The death rattle of dinosaurs.
Great post that, mate.
 
Why does history matter anyway? And I mean that however you define it.

Surely the present and the future are more important?
They are but when all you can see on the horizon is more City dominance it's all they've got left to cling on to so they're bound to play this card as often as they can even though it's a weak one.

As The Stone Roses sang; Kiss me where the sun don't shine, the past is yours but the futures mine, you're out time.
 
Re: Mercenaries...
back in the late 50's/early 60's the press at the time labelled the Scottish players Shankly bought at Liverpool as "McMercenaries", due to them buying a load of players with sugar-daddy money.
That's how the club started in the first place, when John Houlding engineered the eviction of Everton from Anfield and bought a load of mainly Scottish players he called "Liverpool".

And United had not one but two sugar daddies, both of whom saved them from extinction.
 
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