Media Thread 2020/21

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meltonblue said:
Rodris not received the ball from Mings chesting it down though so that surely backs up my point that either the law is poorly written or he was onside because he challenged from an onside position?
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The law has always ( at least in my lifetime) been that you are offside only if your own player was the last one to play the ball. It was however clarified more recently that an opposition player had to deliberately play the ball, rather than a situation where he has no control of it.

For example, let's imagine Rodri was in an offside position, the Villa keeper has the ball and throws it to Mings. Mings isn't looking however, it hits the back of his head and rebounds to Rodri, who is then judged to be offside as Mings is judged not to have played the ball deliberately.

If Mings is under pressure from a player who's onside, tries to head it back but heads it to Rodri, that's not offside. If Rodri challenges Mings for the ball before or as Mings plays it, he's offside.
 
burning blue soul said:
It doesn't happen because, bizarrely, players and clubs don't know the rules.... fucking mind boggling.
I remember years back Messi did the same thing in a chumps league game, came from a mile "offside". I was perplexed as to why it stood, but it was the same ruling. I checked it out at the time.
Thought the idiot ref, and var, were gonna rule it out last night though, just cos it's City.....
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Also because most defenders wouldn’t dream of taking a ball down and turning blind - knowing there was an opposition player behind him
 
bellsouth said:
Also because most defenders wouldn’t dream of taking a ball down and turning blind - knowing there was an opposition player behind him
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It happens more than you realise. A lot of these times the defender, attacker (and supporter) don't pay much mind because of the offside rule they, mistakenly, believe is their safety net.
You will see this strategy a lot more now.
 
I'm loving this Drama this morning...Experts well fook me it's amazing that of all of the pundits(Apart from maybe 2 ) including ex expert Refs dont know the rules.
If they thought about this for a min they would realise that it has to be that way as every player who was ever off side during a game would in there minds be permanently offside .....
Wish I was in work and not working from home the Dipper/Rags followers will be crying there hearts out in the brew room .
Come on City .
 
BBC calling the goal 'controversial' before showing Bernardo taking on 4 defenders before scoring a cracker which must have puzzled viewers. Then they showed the earlier bit with Rodri.
It seems that several parts of the media will continue to try to taint this goal regardless of what the rules say.
Tough titty. Look at the table and the game in hand.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The law has always ( at least in my lifetime) been that you are offside only if your own player was the last one to play the ball. It was however clarified more recently that an opposition player had to deliberately play the ball, rather than a situation where he has no control of it.

For example, let's imagine Rodri was in an offside position, the Villa keeper has the ball and throws it to Mings. Mings isn't looking however, it hits the back of his head and rebounds to Rodri, who is then judged to be offside as Mings is judged not to have played the ball deliberately.

If Mings is under pressure from a player who's onside, tries to head it back but heads it to Rodri, that's not offside. If Rodri challenges Mings for the ball before or as Mings plays it, he's offside.
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If the Villa keeper throws the ball he’s not offside full stop.
 
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