Media Thread 2020/21

[petrusha]

Think both of them were really good mates too before & after if I remember correctly.

Yes, this is right. The guy was called George Potter. They'd known each other in the north east and, as you say, were quite good mates. There's an extract from Tueart's autobiography here that discusses it (he gets the score wrong - it was 6-0, not 6-1): Manchester City v Hartlepool 1975/76 FA Cup 3rd Round – City Til I Die

It also shows a photo of Tueart and Tony Book visiting the guy in hospital, and a copy of the letter Tueart, as President, sent to the Junior Blues expressing his regret after the incident.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Blimey that takes me back....I was in the Kippax that day...was it a cup game? Think his name was Potter...went down quicker than Salah! Seem to remember we scored 6!

And that was a proper headbutt not like the Trevor Francis head flick! I think the Tueart one was strangely during a 6-0 FA Cup win against Hartlepool. I was in the ground and it seemed to come out of the blue. There were suggestions afterwards there was some sort of personal grudge going back to Tueart's days in the North East. Didn't the victim get quite badly injured?

 

[Metalartin]

Regarding taking on the snakes is it possible that legal proceedings have been avoided by the club due to concerns over being forced to disclose background and provide counter evidence. all this would do is provide more ammunition to the detractors.

I could be wrong but I don't think that's how slander and libel work, it's on the accuser mouthing off publicly to prove what they are saying is correct because they are the ones who said it and they cannot for 99% of it. Otherwise it really would be "guilty until proven innocent". It's why CAS basically told UEFA: "You've got absolutely no evidence for any of your claims, other than failure to co-operate after your organisation starting leaking to the press."

For example, the ownership which our press are always blatantly being disingenuous about. City are not state owned, they are owned by ADUG who are privately owned by Sheikh Mansour. Not to mention shareholders in China and the USA now. That's a legal fact and City wouldn't have to disclose much to prove that from their side of it.

The ownership of City isn't in doubt, for the rest of their claims past and present: As if any of our agenda peddling media would be sitting on any proof and being coy about it. No, what they are doing is quite the opposite, they are letting on they have more than they really do to support what they are saying.

Who ever came up with "The empty can rattles the most" was really onto something. It crops up in many places, football politics being one of them. That's Rob Harris all over, he loves the attention. If anyone is in doubt, go watch his appearance on the 90min youtube channel just after the Der Spiegel propaganda dropped. They all brown nosed him, as if he was some kind of authority on the subject and he couldn't stop smiling, he was loving it.

 

[Protein Junkie]

It will only change when fan bases change. I’d hazard a guess there are a shed load of young city fans out there and when they become adults, get jobs, and so are valuable consumers the media will need to adjust.

or, maybe not. Kids consume their news and TV differently these days. Hence why the print media is dying

Better worded than mine but I essentially said the same.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I don't think that's how slander and libel works, it's on the accuser mouthing off publicly to prove they have any evidence of wrong doing. Otherwise it really would be "guilty until proven innocent".

Correct. So Rob Harris of AP, who asked Pep after the Cup Final if he was paid "off books" (like Mancini had allegedly done to evade tax or circumvent FFP), would have to prove this allegation was true. In civil cases the burden of proof lies with the accuser.The irony of course is that even if Mancini had been paid "consultancy fees" to boost his income it was in a period which pre-dated FFP rules!
That allegation was broadcast publically in a televised press conference and repeated online. AP is one of the world's biggest news agencies which supplies content for thousands of outlets and millions of people globally. Reputationally it is as bad as it gets. For example if Harris had said it to the boss of say the Disney Corporation his career would be over (unless he could prove it was true)

 

[LongsightM13]

Correct. So Rob Harris of AP, who asked Pep after the Cup Final if he was paid "off books" (like Mancini had allegedly been done to evade tax or circumvent FFP), would have to prove this allegation was true. In civil cases the burden of proof lies with the accuser.The irony of course is that even if Mancini had been paid "consultancy fees" to boost his income it was in a period which pre-dated FFP rules!
That allegation was broadcast publically in a televised press conference and repeated online. AP is one of the world's biggest news agencies which supplies content for thousands of outlets and millions of people globally. Reputationally it is as bad as it gets. For example if Harris had said it to the boss of say the Disney Corporation his career would be over (unless he could prove it was true)

I was amazed we took no action on this.
It was like asking David Attenborough in a public interview if it was true he was a paedophile because the BBC had covered up Jimmy Savile’s activities in the 70s and 80s

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Most watching games ever in the US

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1.72m for the U.S - is that it?

 

[M12Blue]

They will if we make them as sensationalist as f*ck. With the grain of long term truth at their base that we can point back to in the future with a follow up 'we told you so'. And so the credence of our big picture prescience becomes complete.

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[jrb]

No mention of the hacking-rich club.

Still pandering to the coach wreckers.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Well well well....Bernies goal against Villa is now considered to be offside under a new “interpretation” no changing of the law just more scope for the Prem/pigmol to interpret (nudge nudge) the game as they see fit, this would never of happened had the rags or dippers had the ingenuity to score that goal, City ruining football again