Media Thread - 2021/22

[The perfect fumble]

City fans absolutely humiliated and exposed virtually the entire industry over CAS.
People who, unlike them, are not paid a salary to research such matters did so anyway and they shone a harsh and unforgiving spotlight on the football media’s unprofessionalism, their gullibility, their petty biases and their stupidity.
They will never forgive us for that

Nailed it.

What really pisses off the dozy scribblers, is those "militant and abusive" blues who had the wherewithal and tenacity to take them on were right and they were wrong.

That's an unforgivable sin.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

The City FFP investigation and CAS case encompassed financial and legal issues that your average football hack couldn't possibly understand. I think most of them recognised that, but some, the likes of David Conn and Nick Harris, think they have expertise in the area even though their performance with regard to the matter at hand decidedly suggested otherwise.

When people such as Sam Lee claim they discussed the matter with experts, they needed to ask those experts whether they'd studied the proceedings in CAS 1. In that case, City challenged the referral from UEFA's Investigatory Chamber to the Adjudicatory Chamber. Though we lost in that instance, the tribunal in its ruling was quite receptive to City's arguments generally. Moreover, that ruling contained an exposition of what some of our main arguments in the main CAS case would be.

I strongly suspect that, when people such as Sam Lee say they consulted experts, those experts weren't aware of CAS 1. I'd be amazed if Sam had the perspicacity to ask them.

A final point. These journalists seem to think they're intellectually superior to fans. Well, maybe they are to many fans, but, as was amply demonstrated in the CAS matter, we have people among our number whose perceptiveness pisses all over any of theirs.

I don't count myself among that number and don't want to come across as conceited, but sometimes I reflect on the intellectual qualities needed to do my job. None, literally, of the WhatsApp group would have a prayer, and Sam Lee would be so far away from being capable, it's untrue.

So fuck yourselves, you self-aggrandizing, conceited twats. Come back when you've developed the skills to match your delusions. I'll expect you when he'll freezes over.

Yup, a blue tick doesn't give you the right to lord it.

 

[cheekybids]

Normally when a journalist or in this case journalists are fed lies from an organisation leaving them embarrassed they are pissed off even vengeful yet that’s not occurred.

We presume it was Parry & their ilk using NYT & many others & all must have known that CAS was likely to overturn the verdict, which tells you from the start it was all about inflicting reputational damage. How has experts like Rory Smith, Panja not suffered reputational damage for getting it so wrong & at no point has it worried them or their editors.

It’s not bothered the bbc that they put Smith up an expert when clearly he isn’t. It’s all very bazaar, as we say humiliated by fans on a forum when no professional expert advice could predict what was blatantly obvious when evidence was looked at.

 

[Bluechipblue]

Normally when a journalist or in this case journalists are fed lies from an organisation leaving them embarrassed they are pissed off even vengeful yet that’s not occurred.

We presume it was Parry & their ilk using NYT & many others & all must have known that CAS was likely to overturn the verdict, which tells you from the start it was all about inflicting reputational damage. How has experts like Rory Smith, Panja not suffered reputational damage for getting it so wrong & at no point has it worried them or their editors.

It’s not bothered the bbc that they put Smith up an expert when clearly he isn’t. It’s all very bazaar, as we say humiliated by fans on a forum when no professional expert advice could predict what was blatantly obvious when evidence was looked at.

Totally agree. I think they had an inkling there would be no evidence to find us guilty. But feed the masses enough lies and innuendo and reputational damage will follow.
Anyone with half a brain knew UEFA brought charges to CAS that were timed out, but the narrative from the media is we escaped because of a technicality.
Same with the fine for non co-operation. All of a sudden it's reported we were found guilty, we must be otherwise why were we fined?
Both these points are raised over and over again, never having the required context added for the full story.
It doesn't matter to them. Shit sticks. That's good enough for them.

 

[threespires]

The City FFP investigation and CAS case encompassed financial and legal issues that your average football hack couldn't possibly understand. I think most of them recognised that, but some, the likes of David Conn and Nick Harris, think they have expertise in the area even though their performance with regard to the matter at hand decidedly suggested otherwise.

When people such as Sam Lee claim they discussed the matter with experts, they needed to ask those experts whether they'd studied the proceedings in CAS 1. In that case, City challenged the referral from UEFA's Investigatory Chamber to the Adjudicatory Chamber. Though we lost in that instance, the tribunal in its ruling was quite receptive to City's arguments generally. Moreover, that ruling contained an exposition of what some of our main arguments in the main CAS case would be.

I strongly suspect that, when people such as Sam Lee say they consulted experts, those experts weren't aware of CAS 1. I'd be amazed if Sam had the perspicacity to ask them.

A final point. These journalists seem to think they're intellectually superior to fans. Well, maybe they are to many fans, but, as was amply demonstrated in the CAS matter, we have people among our number whose perceptiveness pisses all over any of theirs.

I don't count myself among that number and don't want to come across as conceited, but sometimes I reflect on the intellectual qualities needed to do my job. None, literally, of the WhatsApp group would have a prayer, and Sam Lee would be so far away from being capable, it's untrue.

So fuck yourselves, you self-aggrandizing, conceited twats. Come back when you've developed the skills to match your delusions. I'll expect you when he'll freezes over.

To your point, whenever I read your posts I am struck by how considered and cogent they are in comparison to much of what passes for journalism these days. I also think most of them would struggle to use 'perspicacity' in it's correct context too!

 

[jrb]

Here's one for you, Sam. Salvage your reputation. What little reputation you have left. See if you can dig any further and get the answers no Journalist has been able to get. But expect an injunction stopping you from telling the truth from......

Liverpool paid a £1 million settlement to Manchester City after their Premier League rivals made a complaint that their scouting system had been hacked into.

The confidential settlement took place in September 2013 after it was reported that City had employed computer-espionage experts to see if the system had been spied on.

The scandal would appear to be the biggest incident of alleged misbehaviour by one top-flight club to another in the Premier League’s history.

The settlement came a year after three former City scouts moved to Liverpool. Two of them, as well as Michael Edwards who is now Liverpool’s sporting director, were alleged by City to have been involved in accessing their database on the Scout7 system on hundreds of occasions.

The two scouts alleged to have been involved in accessing City’s Scout7 system were Dave Fallows, now Liverpool’s head of recruitment, and Julian Ward, who was Liverpool’s European scouting manager for Spain and Portugal and is now the loan pathways and football partnerships manager.

Liverpool paid Manchester City £1m ‘spy’ settlement

Liverpool paid a £1 million settlement to Manchester City after their Premier League rivals made a complaint that their scouting system had been hacked into. The confidential settlement took place in September 2013 after it was reported that City had employed computer-espionage experts to see if the

www.thetimes.co.uk

A club spokesperson from Liverpool said on Saturday: "Liverpool Football Club does not provide any comment on any allegations relating to legal agreements it may or may not have entered into with any other club, organisation or individual."

Liverpool 'paid Man City £1m settlement' according to The Times

Liverpool have responded to claims made in Times report they paid Man City settlement over incident six years ago

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

FA ramps up pressure over ‘spygate’ row between Liverpool and Manchester City

The Football Association has asked Manchester City for information on the hacking dispute with Liverpool in a significant escalation of the controversy. The involvement of the governing body, which wants to examine any evidence gathered by City to see if there is a case to pursue, will increase pres

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[mat]

There seems to be a lot of links to the NYT where City agendas are concerned. This publication was also the source of the leaks during the UEFA investigation. I doubt the takeover will improve anything, from a City point of view.

"Who are the Athletics new owners and why is it bad for impartial journalism? 3 page special reveals all, including the links to project big picture architect and ESL front runner, John Henry."

New York Times Company Sells Final Stake in Fenway Sports (Published 2012)

The sale was the latest move in a continuing effort to shed assets unrelated to the company’s flagship newspaper.

www.nytimes.com

10 years ago FSG had an official business with the NYT.

Maybe it's still there?

 

[Damanino]

Wonder if now the whatsupp group will go after Abramovich 1000x harder than at Mansour. Maybe even painting Chelsea fans as rats if they dont push out Abra from their club.
Delaney, Harris, Tariq Panja, i am looking at you...

 

[bluwes]

The City FFP investigation and CAS case encompassed financial and legal issues that your average football hack couldn't possibly understand. I think most of them recognised that, but some, the likes of David Conn and Nick Harris, think they have expertise in the area even though their performance with regard to the matter at hand decidedly suggested otherwise.

When people such as Sam Lee claim they discussed the matter with experts, they needed to ask those experts whether they'd studied the proceedings in CAS 1. In that case, City challenged the referral from UEFA's Investigatory Chamber to the Adjudicatory Chamber. Though we lost in that instance, the tribunal in its ruling was quite receptive to City's arguments generally. Moreover, that ruling contained an exposition of what some of our main arguments in the main CAS case would be.

I strongly suspect that, when people such as Sam Lee say they consulted experts, those experts weren't aware of CAS 1. I'd be amazed if Sam had the perspicacity to ask them.

A final point. These journalists seem to think they're intellectually superior to fans. Well, maybe they are to many fans, but, as was amply demonstrated in the CAS matter, we have people among our number whose perceptiveness pisses all over any of theirs.

I don't count myself among that number and don't want to come across as conceited, but sometimes I reflect on the intellectual qualities needed to do my job. None, literally, of the WhatsApp group would have a prayer, and Sam Lee would be so far away from being capable, it's untrue.

So fuck yourselves, you self-aggrandizing, conceited twats. Come back when you've developed the skills to match your delusions. I'll expect you when he'll freezes over.

I don’t know how to do the applause gif, but blimey Peter, that deserves one.

 

[mat]

Wonder if now the whatsupp group will go after Abramovich 1000x harder than at Mansour. Maybe even painting Chelsea fans as rats if they dont push out Abra from their club.
Delaney, Harris, Tariq Panja, i am looking at you...

Delaney saying fuck all on 5live earlier.