Media Thread - 2021/22

[eversince 76]

Well I expect reports in the media solely ment to destabilise our club. Whenever there is a big game coming up you read some weird stories that funnily enough run dry after the game is played.
Sometimes it’s so obvious that you tend to think the media are taking a leak. Talking about leaks ….

 

[Metalartin]

ESPN keep finding these "analysts" to a find a way to show Liverpool have been wronged.


Reading the comments, they have gone full victim mode. They are convinced:

This is the proof that they deserve to be above City in the table already.

Despite the fact that, this is the table without VAR according to some self professed experts(probably uni students again). Meaning, the ref's first decisions would have been final and the calls that VAR got right would be wiped out. The point being, that the ref said no penalty during the Everton game. It also means if someone escaped 2 second yellow cards in a big game(potentially worth 6 points in the title race), that VAR has nothing to do with that either.

So their table doesn't reflect what they think it does. Neither did the other one they paid someone to research a few years back, to show Liverpool should have been top of the league/were the most hard done by. It was just some students opinions on referee calls, who were less qualified than the referees who made the calls in the first place.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

ESPN keep finding these "analysts" to a find a way to show Liverpool have been wronged.


Reading the comments, they have gone full victim mode. They are convinced:

This is the proof that they deserve to be above City in the table already.

Despite the fact that, this is the table without VAR according to some self professed experts(probably uni students again). Meaning, the ref's first decisions would have been final, which means the calls that VAR got right would be wiped out. The point being that the ref said no penalty during the Everton game. It also means if someone escaped 2 second yellow cards in a big game(potentially worth 6 points in the title race) that VAR has nothing to do with that either.

So their table doesn't reflect what they think it does. Neither did the other one they paid someone to research to show Liverpool should have been top of the league/were the most hard done by. It was just some students opinions on calls who were less qualified than the referees who made the calls in the first place.

Yeah, but if long range goals counted as double...

 

[Metalartin]

I can also see from those comments that the narrative is still going in the Liverpool support that Everton should have definitely taken 2 points off City.

They're convinced:

That the phone call Lampard received, could only have been an apology and if it was an apology, it could have only been because it definitely should have been a penalty. Not explaining the decision, perhaps conceding where things could have been handled better(communication etc).

That there was definitely an offside check before the handball check and that they have proof Richarlison was onside in the build-up. Even though, Sky were never told about one during the game and no confirmation still-frame was shown at any point during or after the VAR check(odd no?).

Not to mention, NBC's own VAR check with their own software, had everyone in their studio saying it looked offside(unanimous apparently). Or that, had the check been done(and not shown to Sky's team or confirmed in any way), it would have been record timing on a call that close. To have completed it by the time Stockley Park were already showing Sky the images they were looking at on the handball call.

Aren't the offside checks also only automatic on goal decisions? If the linesmen are told to keep their flag down(if it's close), then surely this is an area that needs looking at. It would probably make penalty checks longer but if the linesman keeps his flag down because it's close or even he thinks a player is onside when he's not(as they do with goals sometimes). Then if it isn't automatic, why would the VAR go back and look for one? I do understand the pressure fans place on them, to get even the difficult calls done quickly but they seem like they are following a script like robots at times, with no common sense of their own. So, I'm convinced there wasn't an offside check personally. After weighing up what little information the media(Sky etc) are trying to lead the public to believe with, against what was/is still missing if the offside check was made(which far outweighs it).

The oddest thing about it for me, is still that Sky and company have convinced everyone there's been confirmation that it should have been a penalty when there was no official statement(as you'd expect there would be) by PGMOL or the FA. No confirmation that they think there was a conclusive angle on the handball(to overturn the refs call). No confirmation that the offside check was done before they got to that decision. We just have second hand information by an incensed Frank Lampard and the media's opinion on how that phone conversation went. I find it very hard to believe that PGMOL/The FA would even tell Frank the things people are convinced they told him, only to leave everyone else in the dark.

Are either of these likely:
"Hey Frank, keep this under your hat but we did check for an offside and he was miles on. We didn't think it was worth showing to anyone. We also think it was a clear handball now and deliberate. We fucked up massively here, don't tell anyone though ok? There's a good boy"

or

"We'll just confirm all this to you Frank and then you call brief the press how you want. We can't be arsed with all that. Who needs official statements eh?..."

 

[Boo or Boo-urns]

Yeah, but if long range goals counted as double...

Published by ESPN (UK) at 3AM after we clinched the title.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I can also see from those comments that the narrative is still going in the Liverpool support that Everton should have definitely taken 2 points off City.

They're convinced:

That the phone call Lampard received, could only have been an apology and if it was an apology, it could have only been because it definitely should have been a penalty. Not explaining the decision, perhaps conceding where things could have been handled better(communication etc).

That there was definitely a offside check before the handball check and they have proof Richarlison was onside in the build-up. Even though, Sky were never told about one during the game and the fact that no confirmation still-frame was shown at any point during or after the VAR check(odd no?).

Not to mention, that NBC's own VAR check with their own software, had everyone in their studio saying it looked offside(unanimous apparently). Or that, had the check been done(and not shown to Sky's team or confirmed in any way), it would have been record timing on a call that close. To have completed it by the time Stockley Park were already showing Sky the images they were looking at on the handball call(aren't offside checks also only automatic on goal decisions?)

The oddest thing about it for me is still that Sky have convinced everyone there's been confirmation that it should have been a penalty when there was no official statement(as you'd expect there would be) by PGMOL orthe FA. No confirmation that they think it was a conclusive angle on the handball(to overturn the refs call). No confirmation that the offside check was done before they got to that decision. We just have second hand information by an incensed Frank Lampard and the medias opinion on how that phone conversation went. I find it very hard to believe that PGMOL/The FA even tell Frank the things people are convinced they told him, only to leave everyone else in the dark.

Are either of these likely:
"Hey Frank, keep this under your hat but we did check for an offside and he was miles on. We didn't think it was worth showing to anyone. We also think it was a clear handball now and deliberate. We fucked up massively here, don't tell anyone though ok? There's a good boy"

or

"We'll just confirm all this to you Frank and then you call brief the press how you want. We can't be arse with all that. Who needs official statements eh?..."

Even if and what they are saying is true it's cancelled out by the fact that Judas Milner stayed on the field when we played them at their gaff.

Evens itself out over the season, right?

 

[mat]

There’s a Norwegian Blue!

Lovely plumage!

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

ESPN keep finding these "analysts" to a find a way to show Liverpool have been wronged.


Reading the comments, they have gone full victim mode. They are convinced:

This is the proof that they deserve to be above City in the table already.

Despite the fact that, this is the table without VAR according to some self professed experts(probably uni students again). Meaning, the ref's first decisions would have been final and the calls that VAR got right would be wiped out. The point being, that the ref said no penalty during the Everton game. It also means if someone escaped 2 second yellow cards in a big game(potentially worth 6 points in the title race), that VAR has nothing to do with that either.

So their table doesn't reflect what they think it does. Neither did the other one they paid someone to research a few years back, to show Liverpool should have been top of the league/were the most hard done by. It was just some students opinions on referee calls, who were less qualified than the referees who made the calls in the first place.

I am more than happy for their lunatic fan base to come up with whatever deluded reasoning they can to put them top of every fabricated table they can come up with, but we are top of the only one that matters.

 

[Centurions]

Interesting, can't find anything online anywhere alluding to a new story after a look. When Der Speigel did a big story on us in 2018 it was being reported about in advance across the media.

Will keep an eye out tomorrow but can't imagine they have anything earth shattering from their stolen email collection, as they would of ran with it long before now if so.

I highly suspect that you won't find anything. It's not dissimilar to someone on here posting 'I expect a new investigation to be started just before the game'. There will be no substance whatsoever.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

To be fair to talksport, after mentioning money with relation to City and Atheltico they did spend 5 minutes talking about how Liverpool currently have 10 players who cost more than Benficas record signing........... wait, no of course they fucking didn't.

A bit late for April Fool's jokes.;)
Liverpool have spent more money than most of their opponents in all competitions but that's never a problem. Just a fact of life for the Burnleys and Norwichs of football.