Media Thread - 2021/22

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cleavers said:
When were these stories ?

Wondering why there's suddenly lots of new pages in the thread, as I haven't become aware of any new shit (I don't go looking for them anyway).
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If I remember correctly, they were in the Times. Perhaps you are seeing stuff for the first time is because the paranoid militants were not diligent enough to post them all at the time. Not too obsessed then.
 
cleavers said:
When were these stories ?

Wondering why there's suddenly lots of new pages in the thread, as I haven't become aware of any new shit (I don't go looking for them anyway).
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This thread exploded back into life after David Mooney said, on Twitter, that the vast majority of media coverage of City was 'fair and balanced, and that some City fans got easily offended or would defend anything the club or owners did. This naturally attracted some comment, which David replied to robustly but politely.

However Sam Lee then picked up on it and, in what was probably a badly worded initial tweet, asked City fans to DM him if they fell between the two extremes of City being 'evil & corrupt' (as portrayed by the media) and having extreme concerns about the ownership. This also naturally attracted some comment, with some questioning his motives, and (unlike David), he went in with both feet, was quite offensive to anyone who questioned him and wouldn't let it drop, calling some City fans "militant cranks".

It seemed to be a coordinated and gratuitous attempt by the two of them to paint some City fans (presumably including me) in a bad light, but the two of them behaved very differently in doing this. I certainly don't agree with Dave Mooney but still have respect for him. Lee, on the other hand, showed himself to be a graceless, snide twat in my opinion. But then he is a rag, so what do you expect?
 
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Christ, @SamLee.
Talk about stirring the shit storm full on and then standing back all defensive as if to say "what I'd do ?" when the crap starts to fly everywhere. Adopts an ultra defensive posture, sticks two fingers in his ears and goes "la la la la la la la...." when people come back at him.
His motives are very suspicious indeed.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
This thread exploded back into life after David Mooney said, on Twitter, that the fair majority of media coverage of City was 'fair and balanced, and that some City fans got easily offended or would defend anything the club or owners did. This naturally attracted some comment, which David replied to robustly but politely.

However Sam Lee then picked up on it and, in what was probably a badly worded initial tweet, asked City fans to DM him if they fell between the two extremes of City being 'evil & corrupt' (as portrayed by the media) and having extreme concerns about the ownership. This also naturally attracted some comment, with some questioning his motives, and (unlike David), he went in with both feet, was quite offensive to anyone who questioned him and wouldn't let it drop, calling some City fans "militant cranks".

It seemed to be a coordinated and gratuitous attempt by the two of them to paint some City fans (presumably including me) in a bad light, but the two of them behaved very differently in doing this. I certainly don't agree with Dave Mooney but still have respect for him. Lee, on the other hand, showed himself to be a graceless, snide twat in my opinion. But then he is a rag, so what do you expect?
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Thanks PB.
Prestwich_Blue said:
Lee, on the other hand, showed himself to be a graceless, snide twat in my opinion. But then he is a rag, so what do you expect?
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Err is the right answer "this" ?
 
Blue Pete said:
Not on twitter but assuming Mr Lee is reading this. The online view is that we are militant. Imagine for a minute that Liverpool or united had been treated in the press like us for the last few years, attacked at every point, other clubs trying to sanction us without evidence, supported by the online media, disparaged on TV, every commentary about us mentioning money, tactical fouls, cheating, bans etc. - want to see militant do that to them and see what happens, it'll be more than computer hacking, stadium invasions or bus wrecking - remember they threatened one of their own players for wanting to leave after years of great service.

We are not militant, we are just pissed off by the constant drip of negativity from all sides.
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We aren’t militant but he somehow has to justify to himself that it’s City fans in the wrong for not understanding his opinion. He may as well wear Mario’s “why always me” tshirt.

And for the benefit of Sam, as a professional writer if you feel the majority of your target audience don’t understand you, it’s your fault not theirs.

or as many of us believe your target audience is always others & City fans should swallow it. Still waiting for your “I was wrong about CAS & ended up looking a twat”.
 
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Norbiton said:
Can Sam Lee enlighten us as to which clubs have fans online who are not militant and abusive? City seem to be singled out for behaviour which, from what I read, is pretty much universal.
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but it’s only city fans that react to Sam Lee in a militant & abusive way when he writes about us.
 
Blue Pete said:
Not on twitter but assuming Mr Lee is reading this. The online view is that we are militant. Imagine for a minute that Liverpool or united had been treated in the press like us for the last few years, attacked at every point, other clubs trying to sanction us without evidence, supported by the online media, disparaged on TV, every commentary about us mentioning money, tactical fouls, cheating, bans etc. - want to see militant do that to them and see what happens, it'll be more than computer hacking, stadium invasions or bus wrecking - remember they threatened one of their own players for wanting to leave after years of great service.

We are not militant, we are just pissed off by the constant drip of negativity from all sides.
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Imagine if he, a united fan, was the Liverpool correspondent for the Athletic and had said what he said. He would be hounded out of his job.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Totally agree with you on that, I always thought Lee was in a unique position to report on that and make a real name for himself, but for some reason didn’t , maybe he just shit his pants because he felt it was too big for him, although I’m sure Projectriver, PB , SWP’s back and the like would have guided him through it, but my own personal thoughts are that he just didn’t want to go against what the usual suspects were saying and probably damage his standing or career prospects .
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Even after the decision he could have made a name for himself & wrote it, even now. It’s not as if he didn’t see it, he reads the forum.

he’s a twat!
 
Sam Lee does read this site

He thinks this thread is horse shit

He thinks I have just threatened him, although he did use the words 'veiled threat'

Anyone who knows me would say i would never do such a thing
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Imagine if he, a united fan, was the Liverpool correspondent for the Athletic and had said what he said. He would be hounded out of his job.
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I’m actually surprised they recruited writers who support the direct rival of the team in question in the first place.
I’m assuming Lonesome Pitt-Brooke is still a City supporter but is their Spurs correspondent. However, assuming this was Lee’s first choice of job he wanted, I do think the local rival is a bit much, and it’s a bit naive of the Athletic’s management, to put it mildly, to not realise in the mega-tribal world of football in England it would always be a very risky decision unlikely to ever work out.
 
All I want is fair and balanced coverage. When I see every single article dog whistle the ethnicity of our owners I see it as out of order. When I see cherry picked articles about finance and human rights that are weighed at us and not other (Google the Burmese bank that sponsor our near neighbours, as well as the Saudis) I wonder whether there is an agenda. Above all I think “treble without applause” and the systemic undermining of our achievements on the pitch

So, I buy a coffee and not a newspaper
 
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