Media Thread - 2021/22

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Marvin said:
I have heard this stance quite a lot in the media. Of course you can not argue with it. Chinese, Russian, and Middle-eastern sovereign funds are hugely invested in Western infrastructure.

It annoys me greatly that the Britain, the capital of the commonwealth and ancient empire is regarded as clean and Johnny Foreigner as dirty. This is racism. Was North Sea oil somehow cleaner than Arab oil. Yes the middle-east is run by autocratic authoritarian rulers and the UK is a parliamentary democracy but this is all a legacy of Empire.

I accept that the UAE is a conservative autocratic state but the UK is not clean either. The British Army and RAF have long marched and flown over the Arab world and we are to be mortally offended if a football club falls into Arab hands? This is absurd! Your moralism has no basis. This is because we have human rights groups whose focus is on the third world when they should be pointing the finger at Washington, London, Moscow and Beijing. Geopolitical power does not lie in Abu Dhabi now does it.

Another point is that somehow over the last 12 months it has become common practise in the British media to claim that MCFC are owned by the UAE state. We are not. We are owned by Sheikh Mansour and sponsored by Etihad. That is not the same thing but they want to create a moral panic with MCFC at its centre because it fits their commercial strategy of selling news to outraged Liverpool and Man Utd supporters
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Britain acquired its wealth from invading countries and making them part of the Commonwealth, they didn’t do it for philanthropic purposes did they? Also, the much revered Royal Family have a lineage steeped in murder, executions and torture not to mention financial embezzlement of the highest order.

Do we have a right to take the moral high ground? Sometimes, definitely yes but hypocritical standpoints don’t always get the scrutiny they deserve especially if it suits the media agenda.
 
give it to gordon said:
I said at the time if Rashford went hungry whilst at utd academy it was piss poor from utd. I was surprised ( lol ) the press/media didnt pick up the fact that utds duty of care towards it's their academy kids didnt cover making sure they had food.
The so called biggest club in the world didnt care if the academy kids welfare.

I am sure he has said he went hungry when he was an academy kid, the press/media should be all over this as to why utd didnt notice this. I would guess he wasnt the only academy kid going hungry.

Has utds duty of care improve since Rashford ?
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What the BBC don't realise is that Rashford can never be universally loved. Playing for United is a double edged sword they are both the most loved and hated football club in the country. While he is a poster boy for all that is good in the home counties and the West country he is an object of hatred and ridicule in Leeds, Liverpool and a good half of his home town and many more places besides . The BBC should choose a less decisive figure as their poster boy an athlete or swimmer perhaps.
 
Spurs quarter 69 said:
What the BBC don't realise is that Rashford can never be universally loved. Playing for United is a double edged sword they are both the most loved and hated football club in the country. While he is a poster boy for all that is good in the home counties and the West country he is an object of hatred and ridicule in Leeds, Liverpool and a good half of his home town and many more places besides . The BBC should choose a less decisive figure as their poster boy an athlete or swimmer perhaps.
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I don't think the BBC expects him to be 100% universally loved. Rashford is a box ticker for the BBC and sadly that's all that formerly great institution cares about at present. The BBC and how it derives its income is antiquated and the sooner it goes down the subscription model the better.
 
Brooklands Blue said:
I don't think the BBC expects him to be 100% universally loved. Rashford is a box ticker for the BBC and sadly that's all that formerly great institution cares about at present. The BBC and how it derives its income is antiquated and the sooner it goes down the subscription model the better.
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Andy Murrays lost wedding ring has been front page for 2 days, the BBC is an abomination.
 
Brooklands Blue said:
I don't think the BBC expects him to be 100% universally loved. Rashford is a box ticker for the BBC and sadly that's all that formerly great institution cares about at present. The BBC and how it derives its income is antiquated and the sooner it goes down the subscription model the better.
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Don't pay then. I don't understand you guys that hate the BBC. Its not enough that you don't like it, you want everyone else (the majority who actually like it) to stop watching it. Anyway that's probably for another thread, probably politics. But stop watching it, surely that would ease your mind.
 
It is the standard to ignore anything positive about MCFC - player performances, managerial/coaching ability, transfers (I even read yesterday a headline that suggested Grealish was a vanity purchase!) but the slightest bit of ordinary fare somehow is bulldozed into a trough of negativity. it's been like this since 2008. It will be interesting to see what take the RDAHMeedya have when NUFC garner a few decent players and start competing with the old guard once again!
 
Marvin said:
I have heard this stance quite a lot in the media. Of course you can not argue with it. Chinese, Russian, and Middle-eastern sovereign funds are hugely invested in Western infrastructure.

It annoys me greatly that the Britain, the capital of the commonwealth and ancient empire is regarded as clean and Johnny Foreigner as dirty. This is racism. Was North Sea oil somehow cleaner than Arab oil. Yes the middle-east is run by autocratic authoritarian rulers and the UK is a parliamentary democracy but this is all a legacy of Empire.

I accept that the UAE is a conservative autocratic state but the UK is not clean either. The British Army and RAF have long marched and flown over the Arab world and we are to be mortally offended if a football club falls into Arab hands? This is absurd! Your moralism has no basis. This is because we have human rights groups whose focus is on the third world when they should be pointing the finger at Washington, London, Moscow and Beijing. Geopolitical power does not lie in Abu Dhabi now does it.

Another point is that somehow over the last 12 months it has become common practise in the British media to claim that MCFC are owned by the UAE state. We are not. We are owned by Sheikh Mansour and sponsored by Etihad. That is not the same thing but they want to create a moral panic with MCFC at its centre because it fits their commercial strategy of selling news to outraged Liverpool and Man Utd supporters
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Great post. It is the double standards which annoy me the most.

www.bbc.co.uk

Afghanistan: US admits Kabul drone strike killed civilians

An inquiry finds the strike, days before the US pullout, killed 10 members of a family - not militants.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

This recent massacre of civilians by the US didn't get a lot of coverage in this country. It didn't suit the hero narrative. Imagine if this had been carried out by the Saudis.
 
Spurs quarter 69 said:
Sixty years.Cant understand it but some teams count and some don't.
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For the London clubs, just look at the teams supported by the big journalists. Someone posted a list a while back and it was massively Spurs and Arsenal. Only Martin Samuel supports West Ham.

Basically, most people are glory supporters, and most journalists are at an age where the rags, dippers and Arsenal were successful. Also most newspapers are London-based so you'll have a certain amount of London-bias there too. In 20 years time, you might see more Chelsea or City fans in the newspapers. Especially now that journalism is becoming even further removed from the working class roots of the sport.
 
There are plenty of stories about us when things go wrong, otherwise damned with faint praise is the order of the day.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
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Media bias is a double sided thing. Utd fans truly believed Rashford was / is the next mbappe. Lfc now have Salah being told he's as good as messi... Good luck with those contract negotiations liverpool.

It's a double edged sword. And I'm glad our players aren't 'stars '
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Most of the United fans I know think Rashford is a straight line speedster, who hasn't improved in the last 2 years. Not worthy of a starting place.
But I agree the media inflate their value, always on about the defensive improvements, brilliance in midfield and upfront, youthful team etc, will struggle for 4th, and that is why they have changed CL qualification rules.
 
Corky said:
There are 100+ pro clubs in England who get far less attention than City.
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True but they don't have the caliber of players that we have. I am referring to the fact that if some of our players were in other teams like Liverpool, Chelsea or Man United they will get so much more hype and praise than they ever will at City!

One big example is David Silva! He has to be one of the best players in the world of his time! Aguero same! Kompany same! But because they played for City they never get the recognition they deserve.

Bring Salah to City and then no one will talk about him anyone cause he has become a City player!

This deep denial that many live in about the rise of City is annoying the old guard and its becoming repetitive! City is here to win and here to stay! They have to live with it now
 
Pep sees this and it contributed to his comments regarding fans turning up to watch the team against Southampton.

I think the lack of recognition in the media really irritates him. It's probably a big factor in the overall happiness for some players. Had one of the media darlings done what we've done since Pep came in there'd be non stop praise and recognition for the players.

I think it boils Pep's piss.
 
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