Media Thread - 2021/22

[55yr old teenager]

Sam, go and to something useful in your failing click-bait journalistic career.

Go and find out why Liverpool Football club illegally hacked Manchester City Football clubs player data base. And whether Henry and FSG knew what was going on? And why those who did it are still employed by Liverpool Football club?

Go and find out why Liverpool Football club renewed their shirt sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered even though they must have known Standard Chartered were being investigated for money laundering, breaching sanctions with Iran, etc.

Go and find out why Manchester United are funneling their money through the Cayman Islands Tax Haven.

But you won't will you, you sh*t bag! It's more than your career is worth. I'm sure you and your employer wouldn't want to upset Henry, the Glazers, Liverpool Football Cub, Manchester United Football Club, Liverpool fans (especially Liverpool fans), and United fans.

You're no different to all the other click bait football journalists who suck up to red shirt clubs and their fans. Happy to stay subservient on the QT. Happy to keep your cushy job. And happy to watch the clicks come rolling in across social media. What a shit way to measure a journalistic carrer. Are you f*ck Martin Samnuel!! And you never will be.

Brilliant post. Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

If you go on most team's forums you'll find threads about Tyler's supposed bias against them. Think he generally seems to favour the home team, but I guess if you're proving unpopular with so many fanbases then maybe it's time to hang up the mic.

Same with referees to be fair. And the media!

 

[Blue Pete]

So there you go - "may do an article"

Yeh right - ofc he's gonna write an article on the responses; that was his MO all along, for the rags and dippers to lap up

Gotta keep those interactions/subscriptions coming eh? (Seeing as that's what the overlords at the NYT demand from their journalists)

Smh

So there you go - "may do an article"

Yeh right - ofc he's gonna write an article on the responses; that was his MO all along, for the rags and dippers to lap up

Gotta keep those interactions/subscriptions coming eh? (Seeing as that's what the overlords at the NYT demand from their journalists)

S

So there you go - "may do an article"

Yeh right - ofc he's gonna write an article on the responses; that was his MO all along, for the rags and dippers to lap up

Gotta keep those interactions/subscriptions coming eh? (Seeing as that's what the overlords at the NYT demand from their journalists)

Smh

Not on twitter but assuming Mr Lee is reading this. The online view is that we are militant. Imagine for a minute that Liverpool or united had been treated in the press like us for the last few years, attacked at every point, other clubs trying to sanction us without evidence, supported by the online media, disparaged on TV, every commentary about us mentioning money, tactical fouls, cheating, bans etc. - want to see militant do that to them and see what happens, it'll be more than computer hacking, stadium invasions or bus wrecking - remember they threatened one of their own players for wanting to leave after years of great service.

We are not militant, we are just pissed off by the constant drip of negativity from all sides.

 

[moomba]

The online view is that we are militant.

The last decade has seen us as a group of supporters attacked, belittled and criticised relentlessly.

It's not surprise people are sick of it and bite back.

Personally I don't bother with it, and rather than have a go at someone like Delaney, Harris etc I'll just ignore them. They're not worth my time.

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

Why blues taking an interest and challenging the bullshit is important. If left alone media types and average Jo respondents will write with impunity and the opinions set in stone

Mate sent me this reader response from the dipper Echo which had run an article saying that dipperpool might follow us into the metaverse.

Apparently, along with the usual shitty jibes about emptyhad was this belter from someone who it’s safe to assume is a long way off being a rocket scientist!

StJamieOfAnfield
Firstly any figures posted by citeh should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. There accounts are probably even less reliable and truthful than Donald Trumps. The reason I think the emptyhad is always largely empty is because they always sell out every game. Why the empty seats? Maybe because they are "sold" for tens of thousands of pounds per game. Then there is the sponsorship and hospitality. A state run club being sponsored by a state run airline????? Mmm it doesn't take a rocket scientist to join the dots. It keeps corruption to stop the UK media reporting it and the "authorities" stamping it out with 5 Yr transfer bans at all age levels and 8 figure fines.

 

[domalino]

And as Ahsan said, he made a complete hash of FFP/CAS, refusing help from Stefan

I don’t think that’s what Ahsan said at all.

@BillyShears can clarify but I think you’re mixing up 93.20 offering stefan’s analysis to the Athletic pre-Cas judgement and Sam Lee writing an article expecting us not to get banned by UEFA 9 months earlier.

As an aside I believe you’ve also conflated 2 stories about the NYT and The Athletic.

1 is that The Athletic was rating people by subscription numbers

2 is that NYT bought The Athletic to hit its own group wide online subscriber target.

It’s not as you’ve said a few times that the NYT that have come in and started judging Athletic writers based on subscribers.

 

[The perfect fumble]

So there you go - "may do an article"

Yeh right - ofc he's gonna write an article on the responses; that was his MO all along, for the rags and dippers to lap up

Gotta keep those interactions/subscriptions coming eh? (Seeing as that's what the overlords at the NYT demand from their journalists)

Smh

"A common view".....

A common view amongst whom?

 

[Pezzer2]

Rabin seems a very good example of what happens if you don’t ‘toe the line’ with the more established media types these days Twitter especially, you get rounded on and hounded out, the less established who want to get on realise this.

Much like politics, many start off with good and honourable intentions I’m sure, but gradually, they realise it’s quite institutionalised and there’s a hierarchy that you need to fall in line with, if you don’t, we’ll it’s pretty much career suicide.

Its a poisonous place twitter, I've deleted it off my homescreen 2 months back

Best thing I've done not getting caught up in a flood of negativity and lies about our club. You can't win any debate no matter what info and facts your armed with

 

[slbsn]

I don’t think that’s what Ahsan said at all.

@BillyShears can clarify but I think you’re mixing up 93.20 offering stefan’s analysis to the Athletic pre-Cas judgement and Sam Lee writing an article expecting us not to get banned by UEFA 9 months earlier.

As an aside I believe you’ve also conflated 2 stories about the NYT and The Athletic.

1 is that The Athletic was rating people by subscription numbers

2 is that NYT bought The Athletic to hit its own group wide online subscriber target.

It’s not as you’ve said a few times that the NYT that have come in and started judging Athletic writers based on subscribers.

Sam Lee never refused my help. Was never offered/discussed although I think he read my pieces.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Why blues taking an interest and challenging the bullshit is important. If left alone media types and average Jo respondents will write with impunity and the opinions set in stone

Mate sent me this reader response from the dipper Echo which had run an article saying that dipperpool might follow us into the metaverse.

Apparently, along with the usual shitty jibes about emptyhad was this belter from someone who it’s safe to assume is a long way off being a rocket scientist!

StJamieOfAnfield
Firstly any figures posted by citeh should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. There accounts are probably even less reliable and truthful than Donald Trumps. The reason I think the emptyhad is always largely empty is because they always sell out every game. Why the empty seats? Maybe because they are "sold" for tens of thousands of pounds per game. Then there is the sponsorship and hospitality. A state run club being sponsored by a state run airline????? Mmm it doesn't take a rocket scientist to join the dots. It keeps corruption to stop the UK media reporting it and the "authorities" stamping it out with 5 Yr transfer bans at all age levels and 8 figure fines.

Surely the issue is one of finding a " credible journalist " ( and there doesn't appear to be too many ) or an impartial and respected individual who is willing to risk the abuse of the twitter groups , rag/dipper fans and media whores who write the usual clickbait articles which paint the owners and hence the club in such a poor and ill-informed light.

As Rabin discovered the fuckers who make their living from their lies and attacks won't sit there and ignore being called out and shamed for their lies and propaganda. They have a vested interest in their constant attacks .

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

"A common view".....

A common view amongst whom?

The people whose words incite it in the first instance, naturally!

 

[Norbiton]

Can Sam Lee enlighten us as to which clubs have fans online who are not militant and abusive? City seem to be singled out for behaviour which, from what I read, is pretty much universal.

 

[halfcenturyup]

"A common view".....

A common view amongst whom?

I wouldn't worry about it.

Anyone who thinks there is any value in an analysis of 100 replies to a few interactions on Twitter as a representation of a fanbase isn't worth any attention. Like that other idiot Harris, who thinks there is value in asking people on Twitter what they think of their clubs' owners. It's just lazy "journalism" to increase engagement that doesn't involve any real research. A bit like writing a 7,500 word report on sponsorship using Google and LinkedIn, for Christ's sake, and then thinking it has any value without any discussion of context.

 

[bigstanhibbert]

I haven't read the last 20 pages as the media thread is as it stands, it offers no further insight. When I was a teenager (seems about 100 years ago) we had 3 TV channels of which 2 had News programmes 3 times a day - lunch time, tea time and bed time so to speak - the News was concise and reported without discourse or opinion.

Forward 45 years and we have myraid of TV channels with 24 hour 'news' channels and programmes that fill their time with so called experts (pillocks, muppets, media darlings) offering their thoughts/rationale/opinion on the latest position. AND THESE ARE ON MAIN STREAM MEDIA. The sports channels, in particular, are inhabited by the players of previously successful teams who are asked their opinions (understand not their thoughts as they can't form them), bit like Radio 1 having hearSay on to discuss quantum physics....

Beyond that we have a unregulated social media that is full of charlatans, ne'erdowells and pillocks who are only after the opinions of 'fans'. who at no point have to prove their allegiances, all looking for their moment in the spotight. Ignore them,they are all either jealous or seeking an agenda.....back to the music thread

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Why blues taking an interest and challenging the bullshit is important. If left alone media types and average Jo respondents will write with impunity and the opinions set in stone

Mate sent me this reader response from the dipper Echo which had run an article saying that dipperpool might follow us into the metaverse.

Apparently, along with the usual shitty jibes about emptyhad was this belter from someone who it’s safe to assume is a long way off being a rocket scientist!

StJamieOfAnfield
Firstly any figures posted by citeh should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. There accounts are probably even less reliable and truthful than Donald Trumps. The reason I think the emptyhad is always largely empty is because they always sell out every game. Why the empty seats? Maybe because they are "sold" for tens of thousands of pounds per game. Then there is the sponsorship and hospitality. A state run club being sponsored by a state run airline????? Mmm it doesn't take a rocket scientist to join the dots. It keeps corruption to stop the UK media reporting it and the "authorities" stamping it out with 5 Yr transfer bans at all age levels and 8 figure fines.

Let's hope no one is ever unfortunate to be on a rocket where he is joining up the dots.

 

[freshie]

Sam Lee never refused my help. Was never offered/discussed although I think he read my pieces.

Maybe not Sam but according to Ahsan The Athletic did

Media Thread - 2021/22

Horses for courses. 93:20 is top of the tree for me as well but Bluemoon is in the top 3 or 4 of the 10 City pods I listen to - some more regularly than others and often I just dip in. Fast forward is my friend if it isn't something I'm not interested in or if it is a contributor I don't like...

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Can Sam Lee enlighten us as to which clubs have fans online who are not militant and abusive? City seem to be singled out for behaviour which, from what I read, is pretty much universal.

Guess it depends what he aims to prove by his statement

 

[laserblue]

One of the biggest problems CFG face in securing a stadium site in New York, is anti-Arab sentiment. We saw that clearly in the leaked emails from the UAE ambassador to the US, where he spoke about winning hearts and minds and was told, obliquely, to stress their good relations with Israel. It's maybe somewhat far-fetched to suggest the subsequent normalisation of relations between Israel and the UAE was solely to ensure this NYCFC stadium can happen but their presence in New York is clearly important to CFG and the UAE. Obstructing us in any ways they can is clearly important to our US-owned rivals, as we already know.

An apparently little known fact is that for the last 16 years an Emirati organisation (albeit Dubai rather than Abu Dhabi) has owned the ports of New York, Miami, Newark-Port Elizabeth, Philadelphia, New Orleans and Baltimore.

Initially there were dissenting voices in the US about these ports becoming Arab owned but the early pearl clutching seems to have dissipated long ago.

On this basis there seems to be no logical reason why there should be any resistance to CFG building a new stadium in New York. Apart from overt racism that is.

The UAE purchase of American port facilities

A United Arab Emirates-owned company is set to take control of terminals in six major U.S. ports, raising questions about security.

www.cfr.org

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

I said something similar after the opening game at Spurs

However i did say it will get to the point where City fans will be attacked physically

It happened at Spurs, close at Chelsea and West Ham plus Lisbon, although Lisbon could be because we are an English club

Let's see at Everton, Leeds.

These are my experiences.

I voiced similar sentiment at the time, and if not the fans, then the players. We've seen it with Foden already, we'll doubtless see it in due course with Grealish and, had it not been for that racist prat at Stamford Bridge and the outrage that said incident engendered, we would have certainly seen it before with Raz.
Delaney, Sweeney, Wilson, Evans, Harris, Herbert and all the rest of them, are effectively encouraging open season on us, like some form of licensed anti-semitism. When some unwitting City fan or player gets hurt though, and they will the way things are going (particularly given the increasingly poor behaviour from football supporters in this country generally), you can guarantee they'll accept zero responsibility

 

[Bluemoon has risen]

trouble is the shit sticks , someone was talking about dutch football cant remember team or why boom up pops "atleast he'll play in front of fans" and off it went empty this empty that and there job is done

This is why I just laugh it off. We will never be loved by the media and they will try to put us down as much as they can whilst we're relevant.

You wouldn't hear an empty seats jibe thrown Watfords way for example, because nobody really cares enough to mock them for it.