Media Thread - 2021/22

[Citizen Green]

Ok, I've read it in detail, all old ground in as far as I can tell: Mancini payment, bending rules to sign youth players, Pearce emails.

Worth remembering as CAS taught us, emails & 'bombshell' documentation might be great for football journalists but they have to be backed up by physical financial transactions to lead to meaningful sanctions that stick. None of the emails had said accompanying transactions @ CAS, as all were paid in accordance with their contractual obligations. This was all covered at length in the final CAS release.

It seems our German & journalistic friends are unable to grasp this key fact, although I imagine the £ they make from smoking gun headlines makes it worth their time not to.

 

[Mid Wales blue]

Manchester City's Cozy Ties to Abu Dhabi: Sponsorship Money – Paid for by the State

Since the sanctions imposed on Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, links between English football clubs and authoritarian states have been in the spotlight. Internal documents show that Manchester City has received funding from a government agency in Abu Dhabi.

www.spiegel.de

Nothing new, just old lies told differently!

You just know our success is hurting so much.

 

[RandomJ]

Nothing new. Just a rehash of claims already dismissed as not true at CAS.

Can't quite bring themselves to admit CAS dismissed every claim of sponsorship collusion.

Sadly it's still damage done as people won't read it and will just believe the headline because it suits their narrative that we're state funded cheats.

 

[Mid Wales blue]

I actually thought at least one of the angles looked like it was hitting the sleeve already, one looked to be hitting the arm, another looked to be a bit in between both, if I remember right.

If you can't say with absolute certainty where the contact was, then by definition you will have to concede that it wasn't conclusive.

Then we have the offside.

Then we have the fact that a penalty isn't a goal or a guarantee of the end result, even if it is scored.

Then we have that fact that this was one decision. Even if it was a stonewall penalty(it wasn't but for arguments sake lets say it was), the media reaction to it would still be entirely disproportionate for like for like calls for other clubs. Whether they are in a title race or not.

Controversy leads to an increase in viewing, more media clicks and when Manchester City are also involved, then it goes up ten fold.

 

[Metalartin]

As a consequence of that series of articles, UEFA banned the club from the Champions League for two years. But the club managed to successfully appeal the ban before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), which ruled that some of the accusations fall under the statute of limitations and that UEFA was unable to provide any evidence beyond that published by DER SPIEGEL. Furthermore, Manchester City had supplied witnesses who vehemently denied the UEFA accusations. CAS noted in its verdict that it saw no reason to believe these witnesses were lying.

I do get the impression they are trying to destroy Simon Pierce's credibility as a witness. As if CAS made their decisions based solely on him. Wasn't there accounting data that City provided, statements from Etihad all considered too? Along with the pretty significant reason that there was "no evidence" to support Der Spiegel's interpretations of emails and theorised versions of events.

 

[waspish]

Nothing new. Just a rehash of claims already dismissed as not true at CAS.

Can't quite bring themselves to admit CAS dismissed every claim of sponsorship collusion.

More to do to set a narrative for the premier to go after they’ve been investigating us for 3 years on the behest of these jealous bitter yanks!

Are we going to read all this again in 3 years? The never ending drip drip negative narrative of our club?!

 

[Corky]

Sadly it's still damage done as people won't read it and will just believe the headline because it suits their narrative that we're state funded cheats.

State funded would mean the UK government providing a subsidy.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Sadly it's still damage done as people won't read it and will just believe the headline because it suits their narrative that we're state funded cheats.

Nowt new then.

 

[Metalartin]

Does anyone feel like the PL have been sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Waiting until these football leak hacks to go back to the drawing board and tell them what their new accusations should be?

 

[cheekybids]

Nothing new. Just a rehash of claims already dismissed as not true at CAS.

Can't quite bring themselves to admit CAS dismissed every claim of sponsorship collusion.

No mention of spliced emails…..

 

[domalino]

Does anyone feel like the PL have been sitting around twiddling their thumbs until these football leak hacks, cam back to tell them what their accusations should be?

No I think it's a lot more likely they were just hoping the story would disappear forever without officially closing it and upsetting Liverpool and United.

 

[Norbiton]

Can’t see anything in there later than 2015 so it’s all irrelevant anyway isn’t it?

 

[Metalartin]

Can’t see anything in there later than 2015 so it’s all irrelevant anyway isn’t it?

Not sure for the PL's rules. They close the article with this:

The outcome of the Premier League investigation and the possible consequences for Manchester City remain to be seen.

Still seems like a rehash as others have said, with some different angles of attack.

 

[Legal Alien]

ESPN keep finding these "analysts" to a find a way to show Liverpool have been wronged.


Reading the comments, they have gone full victim mode. They are convinced:

This is the proof that they deserve to be above City in the table already.

Despite the fact that, this is the table without VAR according to some self professed experts(probably uni students again). Meaning, the ref's first decisions would have been final and the calls that VAR got right would be wiped out. The point being, that the ref said no penalty during the Everton game. It also means if someone escaped 2 second yellow cards in a big game(potentially worth 6 points in the title race), that VAR has nothing to do with that either.

So their table doesn't reflect what they think it does. Neither did the other one they paid someone to research a few years back, to show Liverpool should have been top of the league/were the most hard done by. It was just some students opinions on referee calls, who were less qualified than the referees who made the calls in the first place.

What a load of shite that video is, i stopped after they talked about our game at arsenal.
That was definitely a penalty for us.The ref just had a bad angle and couldn't see that xhaka had hold of Bernie's shirt and then tripped him up. So that analysis is bollocks and then to say they would've won 1-0 is just laughable, we did score another goal you know!!!

They probably talked about the everton game and yeah it should've been a penalty, but to assume they would've scored it, let alone hung on for a draw when there was at least 10 minutes left, when we were dominating that second half, is totally hypothetical.

Fuck em all and let's show everyone on Sunday who the best team in the land is.

COME ON CITY!!!

 

[rowarta]

the thing that annoys most is that supposed experienced sports journalist re-tweet these comments without any fact checking. This from Winter is just another clickbait tweet (I think I've answered my own question!)

 

[Manchester_lalala]

It’s so predictable, isn’t it? Just after the champions league games finish for the week, stories about City come out before the biggest game of the season. It like fucking clockwork. Come on City, beat them scouse cunts on Sunday.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Sadly it's still damage done as people won't read it and will just believe the headline because it suits their narrative that we're state funded cheats.

The people who won't change their minds aren't worth the steam off our piss.

It's a cuts piece rehash, nothing new, salty as fuck, all the same.

Can't even get the year of our foundation right.

Obviously a thorough job.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

the thing that annoys most is that supposed experienced sports journalist re-tweet these comments without any fact checking. This from Winter is just another clickbait tweet (I think I've answered my own question!)

The desperation of the media hacks is laughable, it’s rehashing stuff that’s been out there for 3 years which the premier league haven’t had the balls to follow through with. Oh well I suppose it gives their raggy demographic some crumbs of hope to cling onto.

 

[Metalartin]

the thing that annoys most is that supposed experienced sports journalist re-tweet these comments without any fact checking. This from Winter is just another clickbait tweet (I think I've answered my own question!)

He keeps telling people "Detail in the PDF intriguing".

"I've read what you probably wont have the patience to after reading all that long winded waffle in the article." No mention of what's interesting.

Edit: I think he's referring to this:

Evidence of Manchester City's close ties with the Abu Dhabi government can be found in this file:

Dossier: Manchester City's Ties to the State​

I'm not downloading shit from that site for now. May have a look later.

 

[Metalartin]

In testimony before CAS, a legal representative of the Finance Ministry in Abu Dhabi said that ADUG "is completely unconnected" to the government of UAE or the Emirate of Abu Dhabi.

Research in the Football Leaks documents has revealed, however, that payments from ADUG to the club were cleared by a state office. According to internal documents, the Executive Affairs Authority (EAA), an Abu Dhabi government agency focused on providing strategic guidance, obviously manages the accounts belonging to ADUG.

It's privately owned whichever way they spin it.

Agency chief Khaldoon Al Mubarak, the de facto prime minister of Abu Dhabi

What?