Media thread 2022/23

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I write this as someone who enjoys ladies football I've watched our ladies play dozens of times live over the years and now watch them on TV or IPTV whenever possible as I've moved 70 odd miles out of Manchester.

Pundits/experts, we have very few male ones who have anything worthwhile to add to any situation, our female ones are no better in fact possibly worse and it's a very low bar to start with...the level they've played at if out of the game before the last 5/6 years was let's be honest pretty dire, it's not that much better even now.

The point I'm getting at is we don't see ex-players from the male game (someone is going to name a few now) who hasn't played football above Conference level filling us with their insights.

Just to again clarify, I'm going to refer any replies that this is a typical sexist post back to my opening paragraph.
Just to let you know, saying "I watch women's football sometimes, so I can't be sexist" is the same as "I've got a mate who's black..."

There are plenty of crap pundits, both men and women, but there's absolutely no argument for excluding women's voices from the game entirely based on some subjective premise that their game is equivalent to "Conference level" football.

Personally I'd listen to someone like Emma Hayes or Rachel Brown Finnis over fucking Danny Murphy or Lee Dixon any day of the week.
 
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It's not what the treble would mean to me and you, it's all about what it means to the journalists and apparently it wouldn't be very good...


Any talk of a treble needs to be put on ice until 2 trophies are lifted and City have the opportunity to play in the champions league final. I’d be happy if we ended up with one of the trophies, two would be amazing, three would be historic.

If City did land all three, we would be looking at the greatest group of players arhat played the game and also the greatest manager in English football. Pep would have put together a team that has won the league by 100 points, lifted a domestic treble, won the premier league 3 times in a row if it happens and then the actual treble on top of that.

The compare and contrast to how they report on their beloved rags is evident. Ten Hag wins the league cup and has got them into the top four a squad that has cost United astronomical amounts of cash, they are hailing him as the new Taggert. The piss boiling if this happens will be delicious.
 



It's not what the treble would mean to me and you, it's all about what it means to the journalists and apparently it wouldn't be very good...

Organically?

About ten years after they’d stacked the deck in their favour? Using the money that move had bestowed upon them to break transfer record after transfer record? To use the domestic income and glory that provided to guarantee qualification for a recalibrated European Cup, the revised finances for which helped further cement the gap between them and those their machinations had left behind?

There was fuck all ‘organic’ about united’s treble win in 1999. It was the culmination of a series of conscious commercial moves to concentrate more and more wealth in the hands of a few clubs, of which united would be at the apex. It was as a result of united et al creating a landscape where they would take revenue away from other clubs in order to widen the gap between them. A decision to break a convention of wealth distribution in football that had lasted a century.

The fact that the team that won the treble had quite a few youth players is merely a sideshow to the main event.

And the irony is, which Herbert’s tiny mind will manifestly struggle to comprehend, is the City model that he so despairs of, arose from what United did in the late 80s and early 90s. The treble win in ’99 was a staging post in the journey to the club City are today.

People say that Pep wouldn’t have come to City if it wasn’t for all the money, and whilst there’s an undeniable truth in that, it’s equally correct to say Mansour wouldn’t have bought the club if united and their cohort hadn’t been such greedy cunts 30 years ago, making the opportunities for commercial revenue from English football so enticing.

The Cambridge Online Dictionary defines ‘organic‘ (inter alia) as follows:
happening or developing naturally over time, without being forced or planned by anyone

The cunts certainly didn’t plan for what happened to City; that seems pretty organic to me.
 
There is obviously a clear media agenda against City success.

The ‘treble’ talk is but the latest in a long long line of vitriol and jingoism against the club:
‘How X can stop City’
‘Z promises Y will do all they can to stop City’
‘It won’t be a treble as good as United’s and here’s 99 reasons why’
Etc

Compare and contrast with the fawning love-in with last years prospect of Liverpool getting a quadruple:
‘How Liverpool can win CL’
‘What Liverpool need to do to overhaul City’
‘Will ex legend Gerrard help Aston Villa hand Liverpool the PL’

It’s stating the bleeding obvious, but have the UK media no shame?
 
Just to let you know, saying "I watch women's football sometimes, so I can't be sexist" is the same as "I've got a mate who's black..."

There are plenty of crap pundits, both men and women, but there's absolutely no argument for excluding women's voices from the game entirely based on some subjective premise that their game is equivalent to "Conference level" football.

Personally I'd listen to someone like Emma Hayes or Rachel Brown Finnish over fucking Danny Murphy or Lee Dixon any day of the week.
Thanks for letting me know mate, I was never ever aware of that otherwise, I'd have not underlined the point at the end of my post.

As for Murphy & Dixon ....I've learned to not listen to any of them even though they've played at the top level and always tune in if not a home game at kick off usually turning the volume off after about 2 mins due to the shite being said during the match.
 
There is obviously a clear media agenda against City success.

The ‘treble’ talk is but the latest in a long long line of vitriol and jingoism against the club:
‘How X can stop City’
‘Z promises Y will do all they can to stop City’
‘It won’t be a treble as good as United’s and here’s 99 reasons why’
Etc

Compare and contrast with the fawning love-in with last years prospect of Liverpool getting a quadruple:
‘How Liverpool can win CL’
‘What Liverpool need to do to overhaul City’
‘Will ex legend Gerrard help Aston Villa hand Liverpool the PL’

It’s stating the bleeding obvious, but have the UK media no shame?
No.
 
Organically?

About ten years after they’d stacked the deck in their favour? Using the money that move had bestowed upon them to break transfer record after transfer record? To use the domestic income and glory that provided to guarantee qualification for a recalibrated European Cup, the revised finances for which helped further cement the gap between them and those their machinations had left behind?

There was fuck all ‘organic’ about united’s treble win in 1999. It was the culmination of a series of conscious commercial moves to concentrate more and more wealth in the hands of a few clubs, of which united would be at the apex. It was as a result of united et al creating a landscape where they would take revenue away from other clubs in order to widen the gap between them. A decision to break a convention of wealth distribution in football that had lasted a century.

The fact that the team that won the treble had quite a few youth players is merely a sideshow to the main event.

And the irony is, which Herbert’s tiny mind will manifestly struggle to comprehend, is the City model that he so despairs of, arose from what United did in the late 80s and early 90s. The treble win in ’99 was a staging post in the journey to the club City are today.

People say that Pep wouldn’t have come to City if it wasn’t for all the money, and whilst there’s an undeniable truth in that, it’s equally correct to say Mansour wouldn’t have bought the club if united and their cohort hadn’t been such greedy cunts 30 years ago, making the opportunities for commercial revenue from English football so enticing.

The Cambridge Online Dictionary defines ‘organic‘ (inter alia) as follows:
happening or developing naturally over time, without being forced or planned by anyone

The cunts certainly didn’t plan for what happened to City; that seems pretty organic to me.
Didn’t they also have the most expensive quartet of strikers in world football at the time?
 
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