Media thread 2022/23

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Not bad from the Mail

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But fuckin' typical from the 'I'
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That headline about the ‘fact’ that billions would have been wasted without Pep. Lol, absolutely laughable how he can be so far off the pace in terms of the extremely well documented last few years.

And disingenuous at best, considering what we managed to achieve under Bobby and Manuel, especially as we were ahead of schedule in what was still very much the ‘laying the foundations’ stage.

So let’s look at some other cases…’billions would have been wasted without Ferguson?’ for example. Lovely thing about this is it’s not facile speculation on a future that didn’t actually happen, they’ve gone right out there and proved it!

Hahahahaaa…
 
Just listened to BBC World Service's review of the final. Everytime they referred to us they stated that we were state owned .Manchester City. How fucking childish and petty. So apparently this is now our new name and The sheikh must be a state. The hate and spiteful attitude hopefully lasts long after this final because it will mean that we have won.
The BBC will be in full ‘ 115 charges ‘ mode if we become champions of Europe.
 
This is wrong on so many levels.

Imagine if you will that the Sheikh and the entire ruling family of the UAE were gone, overnight they just evaporated, what do you think would replace them? A Tony Blair New Labour in the sunshine?

Just look across the whole Middle East, with the exception of Israel how are gay rights doing? Cast your gaze to Africa, with the exception of South Africa how are they doing there? How about women's rights in the Middle East? How are they doing? How do you think they'd fare if the Sheikh and his family were gone? The UAE, the most liberal state in the Middle East, would suddenly flower into Noway in the sun?

I'm tired of posts like this, they are utterly divorced from reality. The idea that the world should be shaped according to a set of liberal left principles where we should feel guilt about owning a mobile phone produced by low paid third world workers, or clothes produced in sweatshops, how this is a cross we all have to bear is plainly ridiculous. The vast majority of mobile phone users, even those that are fully aware of how these devices are manufactured, feel nothing of the sort.

Seeing the world through a set of "universal human rights" drafted in the prosperous west that are neither universal or even recognised by the vast majority of folk on the planet is a perverse delusion, it fails miserably to recognise that these rights often run counter to the religious doctrines and cultural norms of the vast majority of the world's population.

I'm sure you and I would agree that the world is not as we would like it, but that does not give us carte blanche to refashion it in our image. I've no doubt you consider your post good-natured and enlightened but in reality it's nothing more than a liberal left version of the white man's burden.
This could sound contradictory but you are both right. It would take too long to explain why and I’m already on the first drink so I’ll leave it for another day.
 
Well, apart from simultaneously misreading/misrepresenting my post (you actually agree with half my post and position) and demonstrating an underlying tenet of my position, I think it is best we don’t debate, and just agree the world can be better and there is more than enough hypocrisy to go around.

Edit: I do want to encourage you to actually look in to where the raw materials come from for the electronics and clothing you own (among other things). Much of it is sourced not from low wage workers, but from effectively slave labour (often involving children), and that has been the case for a century, long after slavery was abolished in the UK (and US), which we support indirectly with our lifestyles whilst denouncing similar travesties elsewhere. When I said slave labour, I wasn’t be hyperbolic, and it is important not to lower ourselves to likes of Delaney, Harris, and Schindler with delusional hypocrisy (or the Dippers always playing the victim) and to recognise the suffering we help perpetuate, regardless of whether we want to acknowledge our part in it based on our expedient political leanings. It is not “white man’s guilt” to recognise the west have helped create a world of exploitation and suffering for our benefit, with the true costs of the things we love and can’t live without being externalised to the global south, and we have some responsibility for improving that lot for most the world, as we can. Otherwise, we are the baddies. Ignorance, apathy, and political ideology is not an excuse for the suffering of billions of people, just as it wouldn’t be if it were your loved ones suffering.

This is something I have studied, in a professional capacity, my entire adult life and it is not something that can be debated according to alternative facts.

That's my daily dose of sanctimony taken care of.
 
That headline about the ‘fact’ that billions would have been wasted without Pep. Lol, absolutely laughable how he can be so far off the pace in terms of the extremely well documented last few years.

And disingenuous at best, considering what we managed to achieve under Bobby and Manuel, especially as we were ahead of schedule in what was still very much the ‘laying the foundations’ stage.

So let’s look at some other cases…’billions would have been wasted without Ferguson?’ for example. Lovely thing about this is it’s not facile speculation on a future that didn’t actually happen, they’ve gone right out there and proved it!

Hahahahaaa…

First season under Pelegríne We scored a record amount of goals wand he won the double in his first season! The media have a memory of a goldfish
 
That article is basically a sob story, claiming that City only won at CAS because, to quote Karl-Heinz Cuntenigge, UEFA didn't do a great job!

The media conspirators knives are out and we haven't even won it yet!
It's the "Our lawyers were better than UEFA's" narrative-not even original TBH.
 
In the shop earlier I had a look at the back pages and it seemed the Mail was the only one cheerleading for City. Nice to see, but shameful that our press aren't fully behind the English team.
 
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