Medicare For All

[Bigga]

@Dax777

So let's analogise...

If you were say... a burger van looking to get into the food industry and you see a space on a road to set up, even though another burger van is in the same vicinity, are you saying you'd drop your prices, even if the other van was making something completely different? Why would you do that if the customer base is enough for profit margins to soar...?

In fact, despite more vans that enter the fray, the less likely need to drop prices if the customer base convinces itself/ perceives to like what you're doing, similar stuff or not.

Would it not be right in thinking the only way the vans drop prices is if customers stop paying, but then they would starve or look elsewhere?

But, if a food regulator came along and says, let's put a cap on soaring prices, that would be the end of the greed and all the vans make a profit without fleecing the customer.

How could it be otherwise??

 

[BobKowalski]

For the most part yes. Government does best when it does least.

This is just meaningless. You’ve been drinking the Libertarian Kool-Aid

 

[Dax777]

This is just meaningless. You’ve been drinking the Libertarian Kool-Aid

One can say the same of most on here and drinking the Leftist Kool-Aid.

The question remains though, do Government programs run poorly or not? And would we have been better of without them? For the most part the answer is yes.

 

[Bigga]

I'll just drop this here...



*walks off...*

 

[BobKowalski]

One can say the same of most on here and drinking the Leftist Kool-Aid.

The question remains though, do Government programs run poorly or not? And would we have been better of without them? For the most part the answer is yes.

Ah we have a qualification. It’s now for the most part. So you accept some Govt programs are necessary. This is progress. The next question is which do you find necessary and why?

 

[Damocles]

One can say the same of most on here and drinking the Leftist Kool-Aid.

The question remains though, do Government programs run poorly or not? And would we have been better of without them? For the most part the answer is yes.

Many Government programs are wank.

But between the choice of "wank" and "I'm going to die because I'm bankrupt due to treatment costs", in my lowly opinion the latter seems preferable

 

[Dax777]

Many Government programs are wank.

But between the choice of "wank" and "I'm going to die because I'm bankrupt due to treatment costs", in my lowly opinion the latter seems preferable

If those are the options, clearly, I'd take wank. But what if there were better options, but the Lovers of Wank would only allow you to speak if you accept 'Wank', if you don't, you are a racist, Sexist, misogynist, Xenophobic, Transphobic ****.

But if by some faith of luck you are a black, transgender man from say Belize who disagrees and somehow is untouched by the above. Then you are just a self hating person being controlled by the White Supremacists Pathriachy.

That's what passes for argument on the left these days.

Do we want single payer, or compulsory Health Care for all. Or a Health savings copay. What's best? Should be a question of fact. Not bullying and fudging the truth.

 

[Dax777]

@Dax777

So let's analogise...

If you were say... a burger van looking to get into the food industry and you see a space on a road to set up, even though another burger van is in the same vicinity, are you saying you'd drop your prices, even if the other van was making something completely different? Why would you do that if the customer base is enough for profit margins to soar...?

In fact, despite more vans that enter the fray, the less likely need to drop prices if the customer base convinces itself/ perceives to like what you're doing, similar stuff or not.

Would it not be right in thinking the only way the vans drop prices is if customers stop paying, but then they would starve or look elsewhere?

But, if a food regulator came along and says, let's put a cap on soaring prices, that would be the end of the greed and all the vans make a profit without fleecing the customer.

How could it be otherwise??

I think the assumption that profit can keep soaring without new entrants is errorneos... Unless the Government has put up major barriers to entry the likelihood of a bottomless profit making industry is just unlikely

The barriers to entry, normally instituted by governments ate the very reason why these oligopolistic industries exist in the first place.

In your example, if their isn't an artificial bar from.entry enough food trucks will flood the market an innovation will likely drop prices.

 

[Damocles]

Do we want single payer, or compulsory Health Care for all. Or a Health savings copay. What's best? Should be a question of fact. Not bullying and fudging the truth.

I think that people who are ill should be able to go to the Doctors or the hospital and not have to pay anything.

You can't monetise illness, that's weird and predatory.

The main job of any Government is to provide nation wide services that can only be afforded as a collective tax based policy. Like the military. We cant all afford to hire a professional soldier to fight for us so we all put into the pot and the Government buys enough soldiers to protect us all. Or Police.

Doctors, surgeries and medicine is expensive. We cant all afford to hire a professional Doctor. So everybody put in a pot.

That's purposely overly simplistic but I've never understood the resistance to nationalised healthcare in the US. I think every country in the world should have it.

 

[idahoblues]

I think that people who are ill should be able to go to the Doctors or the hospital and not have to pay anything.

You can't monetise illness, that's weird and predatory.

The main job of any Government is to provide nation wide services that can only be afforded as a collective tax based policy. Like the military. We cant all afford to hire a professional soldier to fight for us so we all put into the pot and the Government buys enough soldiers to protect us all. Or Police.

Doctors, surgeries and medicine is expensive. We cant all afford to hire a professional Doctor. So everybody put in a pot.

That's purposely overly simplistic but I've never understood the resistance to nationalised healthcare in the US. I think every country in the world should have it.

I like the miltary aspect, the simpler the better