Meniscus tear

Only saw your reference to this in the Rodri thread.

I annihilated my knee playing football at the end of January, unfortunately for me it was misdiagnosed a few times initially because I had zero swelling which even my surgeon said was utterly bizarre when he did first operation.

I couldn’t place weight on my foot and couldn’t straighten my leg, but was told it was just soft tissue damage.

After a few weeks eventually forced through an initial X-ray to get to the MRI stage and phoned every day until I got a cancellation to bring forward the MRI.

Waited 7/10 days for the MRI results and was dumbstruck when I saw them, I remember vividly opening the email and double checking it was correct results as it was like an essay of damage - did about 5/6 different bits of damage, but the main 2 were a bucket handle tear of medial meniscus and full rupture of ACL.

Saw the surgeon and as it had been 8 weeks since the injury was rushed in for the meniscus repair as the longer they leave it the worse the prognosis as there is poor blood supply to the inside of the meniscus - this is I suppose where it will relate to your injury - if they do a meniscectomy then it doesn’t take as long to recover but will likely result in advanced arthritis in future. If they do a meniscus repair, which is what I had, where they stitch it back in place rather than remove the affected part, then long term it’s better but the rehab is longer. I wasn’t allowed to weight bear for 6 weeks which was hell.

My surgeon does Prem footballers, Super League players and top athletes, and he advised we did my knee as 2 stage, as if he’d done the ACL whilst repairing my meniscus he said there was a high risk of me having a limp for the rest of my life. Consequently I had the repair in April and then done 4 months of strengthening ahead of me having my ACL reconstruction next week where they replace my ACL with part of my hamstring. At least I’ve had the summer, and now don’t really miss playing golf over the winter months.

Hope yours goes to plan, any questions just let me know, I’ve spent months speaking to consultants about all the different aspects.

Sounds just like mine, also misdiagnosed at first, think I had torn my ACL a few months before but it had grafted back on to something else which stabilised it a bit more and gave me less concern for a while as I was playing football still so didn’t even consider it was an ACL issue.

Then it went again rather horrifically and repaired in two stages like yours.
 
Sounds just like mine, also misdiagnosed at first, think I had torn my ACL a few months before but it had grafted back on to something else which stabilised it a bit more and gave me less concern for a while as I was playing football still so didn’t even consider it was an ACL issue.

Then it went again rather horrifically and repaired in two stages like yours.
They reckoned that I’d probably partially torn my ACL years earlier but not fully ruptured it, then this injury finished it off. The bugger with mine was this bucket handle tear, where the “flap” had then folded over inside my knee which is what was stopping me straightening my leg. Because I’d had 8 weeks without straightening it then if the surgeon had done my ACL at the same time as repairing my meniscus then because I had to have 6 weeks of no weight bearing it’d have been further issues for the rehab.

To be honest, it’s not been too bad in the end. I miss running as I used to do that twice a week, but soon got out of that habit. Played football twice a week, which I also miss but again soon got out of the habit. At least playing golf and going to the gym has kept me sane. I’m ready for the ACL now, and having had a prolonged rehab from when they did the meniscus repair then at least I know what I’m facing from next week.

Ready for it now, just want to crack on!
 
Ive got meniscus tears in both knees. Cortisone jabs settled it and Ive kept the thigh muscles strong and its manageable now. I strap them both up in tight neoprene sleeves for any running and sport and Im fine so long as they are on.

I did go for an op on one of them. The surgeon had been great and described it as a minor scrape and polish type thing under an epidural. On the actual day of the op he came into the waiting room when he told his people what each of us needed and how long each procedure would take. He pointed to me and I heard him say that its all knackered and he is just taking it all out. Not the little repair job he told me about. I got up, thanked him for seeing me, and left.

I manage them carefully and ice them to fuck. Wasnt worth the risk to me, but everyone is different and I suppose it comes down to how much it affects you and restricts you
How did you find the neoprene support? Tried one for a week and honestly it made my knee burn. Recommend a brand or model of knee support? I have massive knees. The XL one is too tight, from the doctors. They're sourcing an XXL one.

Seems I have grade 1/2 meniscus tears. Didn't show on MRI.
Rest, ice, compression, and elevation working well but it's been on and off since June. If I sit on a chair it gets worse. I was in agony going to Newcastle and back.
 
I don't create many threads.

However, I was wondering has anyone had this and required surgery. A torn meniscus.

I've torn mine and require an operation. Unfortunately, I have also sprained the ACL, tears in the quadricep tendon and a bone marrow edema . But apparently those can be dealt with by physio.

Fortunately the surgery is being done privately - work is paying.

Just curious to the timeframe for recovery as I want to get back to training and doing my job.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
When i tore mine I was told to try the physio rehab rather than the op as the op had a high failure rate. I did the physio and was exercising in about 5 weeks.
 
When i tore mine I was told to try the physio rehab rather than the op as the op had a high failure rate. I did the physio and was exercising in about 5 weeks.

Interesting. I have actually considered refusing the surgery and doing as you suggested.

I had another physio session yesterday and I was doing ( albeit light and controlled) leg extensions on a machine, and with no issues. Today I have no pain or discomfort and intend on ramping up the weight on this exercise. Luckily I have a gym at home so I don't have to rely purely on going to see the physio.

I have another session with them on Fri so I might put to them what you have said.

However, with me being military and them paying privately, I don't want to do anything that may to lead me going to a medical board. But it's definitely worth asking, particularly as all the physios are civilian staff.
 
I have done the meniscus on both knees right one twice.I have had 4 ops on the knees.The 1st one it was 11 wks before i was back on the golf course.The other 3 it took 7 weeks the physio is the most important thing to do.The consultant has been putting off a replacement on the right one for 2 yrs now and although my right knee is permantely swollen it does not affect mobility so i will follow his instruction.

I know an older guy who waited almost two years for knee replacements ... he was in constant pain with his knees, was struggling to walk, and he got that fed up waiting that he paid out of his own pocket for two to be done ..... he had them done privately and it cost him £18,000.

He reckons his knees feel 'as right as rain' now, and loves the walk from his Deansgate apartment to the Aldi in Manchester Arndale and back so much that he insists on doing it every single day just for the excercise!
 
My left knee just flared with pain about 3 months ago.
The agony was stopping me getting hardly any sleep at night.
Doctor sent me for an Xray about 6 weeks ago and rang with results of 'wear and tear' in my left knee.
He asked if I'd had an injury there which I told him not that I can remember.
He says he can offer me an injection that may or may not work.
I left it.
The pain is still there but I must be getting used to it as I can get some sleep now.
Was taking anti inflammatory tablets at first before the Xray but try keeping off them unless it flares up really bad again in the future.
Would an Xray show any ligament damage in the knee or just 'wear n tear' whatever that means?
 
Yep. Posted on this elsewhere previously. Went hiking on Mam Tor Ridge two years ago, was absolutely fine, came down off it and was standing in a rain-sodden meadow just outside Castleton with a mate, looking forward to getting in and having a well-deserved pint and pub lunch. Being a polite person, I was stood to one side off the single-track path letting what seemed like the world and his wife go the other way (it was a Saturday, and a beautiful October morning), replying “Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello” until I got sick and tired of being polite and giving way, and suddenly, deciding that I'd had enough, pivoted abruptly to go. Had not noticed that the boot on my left foot had sunk deep into the turf. Standing start. Pivot. Rrrrrip!
Fuck, for about ten minutes, it was one of the most intense pains I've ever experienced.
Anyway, long story short, I somehow got back to France at the end of that week (that was the end of that hiking holiday — it was the first fucking day!— but then it became a visiting CAMRA-guide pubs holiday by car, which was ok too!), and for several months limped around on it, thinking I'd just walk it off. Finally had it first X-rayed, then scanned, and it confirmed that I had ripped the meniscus, and there was part of it flapping around in my knee! You can actually walk around on it — until that fatal moment when the cartilage becomes trapped between two bones, and then it is as painful as fuck! Until it becomes untrapped. And so on.
Had it operated on last November (a full year after I'd done it, which proves that if you're stupid like me and treat your body as indestructible, you can live with it, after a fashion). The scan is really necessary to the surgeons, apparently. It means they can do keyhole surgery, pretty much, and on a local anaesthetic.
I'm now pretty much as right as rain, or as much as I'm going to be at nearly 71. Have not tried a long hike in rugged territory since. That would be a test. It can be slightly painful going down steps (i.e. in railway carriages, underground stations and suchlike) but no problem going up.
Get it done. I have private coverage to beef up my state health insurance, and went to a private clinic where they do nothing but hips, shoulders, and knees. Nothing but that, all day long. They can do them in their sleep. The actual operation took about fifteen minutes, I should say. I then had a private room to rest up for about three or four hours. Operation was at 7.30. I was out by about 1 p.m.
Two things to the OP and everyone else on this thread:
I'm a walker. I always have been. When they did the initial x-ray they said, “You know, for someone of your age, your knee is generally in very good condition”. That helps. Even in advance of the mishap, and certainly after it.
As soon as you're out, get walking. Nothing crazy, start gently. But walk a bit every day. Do not let it seize up. That's the worst thing you can do. Extension and flexion work is what they call it. After about a week or so, if you can, get on a bike and do a bit of cycling. Again, no steep gradients or anything stupid. Just a mile or two on the flat. Then increase it if you like. Gentle pedalling. All the work you do in these initial weeks will be a comfort and mobility investment for years to come.
They gave me a crutch to use, but I couldn't be doing with it. I decided to do without it, from the day after the operation.
Going down steps in i.e. railway carriages, or train and underground stations, hurt. I needed a rail (there wasn't always one), and couldn't scamper down them. That lasted for two or three months, I should say. Fine now.
Oh, getting in and out of cars is quite a business, especially if they're fairly low-slung. That hurt for about four weeks or so. I had to get in and out very gingerly. Take it easy on that.
 
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My left knee just flared with pain about 3 months ago.
The agony was stopping me getting hardly any sleep at night.
Doctor sent me for an Xray about 6 weeks ago and rang with results of 'wear and tear' in my left knee.
He asked if I'd had an injury there which I told him not that I can remember.
He says he can offer me an injection that may or may not work.
I left it.
The pain is still there but I must be getting used to it as I can get some sleep now.
Was taking anti inflammatory tablets at first before the Xray but try keeping off them unless it flares up really bad again in the future.
Would an Xray show any ligament damage in the knee or just 'wear n tear' whatever that means?

Don't know what your age is, mate, but you'll understand from my above post that if you'd ripped it, you'd know. Believe me. I'm told that wear and tear is virtually inevitable after about sixty. It is the norm.
If you've done serious damage to a ligament, then only a scan will show it up properly. That's what I was told by the people who know, anyway. It gives them a 3-D vision of the whole thing. It also allows them to operate with much more precision.
 
Don't know what your age is, mate, but you'll understand from my above post that if you'd ripped it, you'd know. Believe me. I'm told that wear and tear is virtually inevitable after about sixty. It is the norm.
If you've done serious damage to a ligament, then only a scan will show it up properly. That's what I was told by the people who know, anyway. It gives them a 3-D vision of the whole thing. It also allows them to operate with much more precision.
Cheers.
I'm 55, played alot of football when younger and cycled to work for about 20yrs so probably just knackered mate.
I'll just self monitor it until it gets too much
 

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