Metrolink

Shaelumstash said:
I was looking forward to the Met to get running to the stadium, but after speaking with some rag mates I'm now not that arsed.

Apparently it's an absolute nightmare trying to get on a tram from the swamp back in to town after the game. They've said the queues are that big that it's quicker to walk back in to town.

It's good that we've got City Square to wait in while the queues die down, but I think the major problem is that the trams are limited to 2 carriages so it's always going to take an absolute age to get tens of thousands of people away from the stadium.

Not being arsed too much is probably best - it's not going to make a huge difference to many.

Old Trafford is twice as long to walk from Piccadilly so it's probably worth waiting for more people. At City, getting out of the car parks can take an age, but plenty still do that instead of walking. The tram won't be for tens of thousands - it'll be another option for a few thousand.
 
bluenova said:
Shaelumstash said:
I was looking forward to the Met to get running to the stadium, but after speaking with some rag mates I'm now not that arsed.

Apparently it's an absolute nightmare trying to get on a tram from the swamp back in to town after the game. They've said the queues are that big that it's quicker to walk back in to town.

It's good that we've got City Square to wait in while the queues die down, but I think the major problem is that the trams are limited to 2 carriages so it's always going to take an absolute age to get tens of thousands of people away from the stadium.

Not being arsed too much is probably best - it's not going to make a huge difference to many.

Old Trafford is twice as long to walk from Piccadilly so it's probably worth waiting for more people. At City, getting out of the car parks can take an age, but plenty still do that instead of walking. The tram won't be for tens of thousands - it'll be another option for a few thousand.

I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.
 
Shaelumstash said:
bluenova said:
Shaelumstash said:
I was looking forward to the Met to get running to the stadium, but after speaking with some rag mates I'm now not that arsed.

Apparently it's an absolute nightmare trying to get on a tram from the swamp back in to town after the game. They've said the queues are that big that it's quicker to walk back in to town.

It's good that we've got City Square to wait in while the queues die down, but I think the major problem is that the trams are limited to 2 carriages so it's always going to take an absolute age to get tens of thousands of people away from the stadium.

Not being arsed too much is probably best - it's not going to make a huge difference to many.

Old Trafford is twice as long to walk from Piccadilly so it's probably worth waiting for more people. At City, getting out of the car parks can take an age, but plenty still do that instead of walking. The tram won't be for tens of thousands - it'll be another option for a few thousand.

I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.


You think it would cost just a few more thousand to lay the track??? Lol yeah right! You obviously don't know the railway!!!

Do some research on how much this kinda work costs! Think you somewhat way way off the mark here! Lol
 
silvaisgoldno1 said:
Shaelumstash said:
bluenova said:
Not being arsed too much is probably best - it's not going to make a huge difference to many.

Old Trafford is twice as long to walk from Piccadilly so it's probably worth waiting for more people. At City, getting out of the car parks can take an age, but plenty still do that instead of walking. The tram won't be for tens of thousands - it'll be another option for a few thousand.

I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.


You think it would cost just a few more thousand to lay the track??? Lol yeah right! You obviously don't know the railway!!!

Do some research on how much this kinda work costs! Think you somewhat way way off the mark here! Lol

To lay 200 yards of track that just by passes the Etihad stop? Let's even say it's £1m for 200 yards. To Increase capacity by 50 trams a game, 200 people per tram paying £2 each, that's an increase of £20,000 per game of revenue. Say an average of 25 home games a season, that's £500,000 in extra revenue a season. That's not allowing for special events like concerts, rugby etc.

Bearing in mind the track will have this increased capacity for at least 50 years, I'd say it would have been a rather wise investment!
 
Shaelumstash said:
silvaisgoldno1 said:
Shaelumstash said:
I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.


You think it would cost just a few more thousand to lay the track??? Lol yeah right! You obviously don't know the railway!!!

Do some research on how much this kinda work costs! Think you somewhat way way off the mark here! Lol

To lay 200 yards of track that just by passes the Etihad stop? Let's even say it's £1m for 200 yards. To Increase capacity by 50 trams a game, 200 people per tram paying £2 each, that's an increase of £20,000 per game of revenue. Say an average of 25 home games a season, that's £500,000 in extra revenue a season. That's not allowing for special events like concerts, rugby etc.

Bearing in mind the track will have this increased capacity for at least 50 years, I'd say it would have been a rather wise investment!


Stop gap till the money comes in
In the earliest days of railways there was little encouragement for third-class passengers to travel -- rather the reverse. Accommodation was provided in open trucks, but to those orders of society who had been accustomed to walk if they wished to travel anywhere, a ride in an open third-class carriage, even in the depths of winter, was no great hardship’’. Sounds like they knew about MCFC circa 2012

The only change from braving the elements in 1830 is now one will have to brave the smoke from the fans a perfect answer to the metro link crisis

even painted in city sky blue






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Shaelumstash said:
bluenova said:
Shaelumstash said:
I was looking forward to the Met to get running to the stadium, but after speaking with some rag mates I'm now not that arsed.

Apparently it's an absolute nightmare trying to get on a tram from the swamp back in to town after the game. They've said the queues are that big that it's quicker to walk back in to town.

It's good that we've got City Square to wait in while the queues die down, but I think the major problem is that the trams are limited to 2 carriages so it's always going to take an absolute age to get tens of thousands of people away from the stadium.

Not being arsed too much is probably best - it's not going to make a huge difference to many.

Old Trafford is twice as long to walk from Piccadilly so it's probably worth waiting for more people. At City, getting out of the car parks can take an age, but plenty still do that instead of walking. The tram won't be for tens of thousands - it'll be another option for a few thousand.

I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.


As I understand it they have a facility for trams to be waiting so for match days more than the normal will be running with doubling up also possible.
 
kramer said:
Shaelumstash said:
bluenova said:
Not being arsed too much is probably best - it's not going to make a huge difference to many.

Old Trafford is twice as long to walk from Piccadilly so it's probably worth waiting for more people. At City, getting out of the car parks can take an age, but plenty still do that instead of walking. The tram won't be for tens of thousands - it'll be another option for a few thousand.

I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.


As I understand it they have a facility for trams to be waiting so for match days more than the normal will be running with doubling up also possible.

Oh well that sounds a bit more encouraging. I thought with the nature of the light rail tram system they could only carry 2 carriages at a time.
 
Its always suprised me that they've never considered buidling a train station on the line that runs behind the athletic stadium. Its sill used for frieght I believe, and you could then have trains direct to and from Victoria taking less than five minutes..
 
Shaelumstash said:
kramer said:
Shaelumstash said:
I just think it's frustrating that it could have been designed and managed so much better. As a poster said earlier about the system at the German club, if Metrolink had had the foresight to think about the extra capacity needed on match days it would be better for everyone.

For example if they'd designed the track so that the Etihad stop was a spur that could be avoided by the main line on a match day to not disrupt regular sevice, and allow for dozens more trams to be put on as match day specials direct from the stadium to Piccadilly, everyone's a winner.

It might cost a few more thousand to lay the extra track, but if you could increase the match day capacity to thousands more per game they would make they money back in no time.


As I understand it they have a facility for trams to be waiting so for match days more than the normal will be running with doubling up also possible.

Oh well that sounds a bit more encouraging. I thought with the nature of the light rail tram system they could only carry 2 carriages at a time.

They can couple as many units together as they have platform space for.

I suspect that the tram will be of more use to get people into the Etihad than to get them away. Those going in will be over a two to three hour period.

Those who stay for a drink or two after the match will probably find the tram convenient. Those who want to get away quickly will probably end up walking back into the centre.
 

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