Micah Richards

Marvin said:
This week I read some telling comments from Pellegrini on Richards and Rodwell saying that these players could not play with the intensity required because of the injuries and games they had missed.

Unfortunately I can't find the article now

That maybe true. But who is to blame for that? Not the players. Poor management

I think Pellegrini has done a good job, but in this period in the season we need a full squad, and we have effectively lost two key players.

If they play today, they will be below their potential level. That's maybe why Pellegrini doesn't play them, but he allowed that situation to develop. It's hard to apportion blame, when maybe there is none, but I think there were occasions when they could have played earlier in the season.

If these players leave in the Summer, they will go on to do very well elsewhere.
Managers fault ,maybe you didn't watch against Watford FFS !

P.s. Absolutely no way in the world we would be offering 80k a week nowadays,no fuckin chance !
 
mcfc1632 said:
For whatever reasons people choose to believe he has not developed from the promise initially shown - that was a long time ago and very brief.

Some people might think it is down to injuries others that he got billy big bollocks when he got his big contract - whatever he is nowhere near the level (IMO) needed for our squad (let alone a good option to start).

For me he has clearly not got a footballing brain and a manager and team mates could not rely on him to perform a planned role - this makes him not good enough at RB and a total liability at CB.

Life moves on - he has done very well at CITY - the club has shown him tremendous loyalty and patience - he can retire if he wants to at such a young age!!

When you look back objectively - without the misty eyed nostalgia - his good displays/period were limited indeed. Anyway no need to criticise - CITY just need to move on in the calm and professional manner that typifies our club nowadays.

Precisely all of this. And the few times he has featured this year he has looked completely lost at RB. Just did not seem to pick up the system. Particularly as to the correct ways to overlap with whoever was on in front of him. You could see this so plainly in the Bayern away match prior to his injury. We were an ungodly mess going forward on the right side and it was absolutely night and day when he went off.

Overall this year, when he has played it seems as if he was inhabiting an entirely different match as the rest of our guys. Has looked like they didn't trust him, did not want to pass to him, etc.

Unfortunately we have not had the luxury of getting him sufficient work to get that sorted. Bayern away was as close to a dead rubber match as we have had all year and he couldn't even stay fit during that.
 
Thenumber1blue said:
Marvin said:
This week I read some telling comments from Pellegrini on Richards and Rodwell saying that these players could not play with the intensity required because of the injuries and games they had missed.

Unfortunately I can't find the article now

That maybe true. But who is to blame for that? Not the players. Poor management

I think Pellegrini has done a good job, but in this period in the season we need a full squad, and we have effectively lost two key players.

If they play today, they will be below their potential level. That's maybe why Pellegrini doesn't play them, but he allowed that situation to develop. It's hard to apportion blame, when maybe there is none, but I think there were occasions when they could have played earlier in the season.

If these players leave in the Summer, they will go on to do very well elsewhere.
Managers fault ,maybe you didn't watch against Watford FFS !

P.s. Absolutely no way in the world we would be offering 80k a week nowadays,no fuckin chance !
While Micah has been great at times in the past, we all know he switches off at key times, but has been great at times going forward, not so long ago he was in pole in front of Zaba for RB, but injuries and inconsistency, and a South American managers bias towards said players has somewhat curtailed his appearances.
Is he stalling because he wants to leave, or an improved financial package from City? If we can replace him with a better player, maybe from Southampton, then we should move him on, it's just a shame he hasn't had a proper run to show us his true consistency, the one that made his an England regular at one time.
 
Bewar3them00n said:
Thenumber1blue said:
Marvin said:
This week I read some telling comments from Pellegrini on Richards and Rodwell saying that these players could not play with the intensity required because of the injuries and games they had missed.

Unfortunately I can't find the article now

That maybe true. But who is to blame for that? Not the players. Poor management

I think Pellegrini has done a good job, but in this period in the season we need a full squad, and we have effectively lost two key players.

If they play today, they will be below their potential level. That's maybe why Pellegrini doesn't play them, but he allowed that situation to develop. It's hard to apportion blame, when maybe there is none, but I think there were occasions when they could have played earlier in the season.

If these players leave in the Summer, they will go on to do very well elsewhere.
and a South American managers bias towards said players has somewhat curtailed his appearances.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. Pelligrini is not biased towards anyone.

Richards has rarely been fit this season, but when he is and gets a chance, he fluffs it.

I remember when he got back from an injury, Pellegrini dropped Zabaleta and played Richards .. this was against Bayern .. Richards ofcourse didn't take the chance...Ribery was running rings around him.

Bad performances and injuries is what is preventing him from cementing a place in the first team not "south american bias".
 
Thenumber1blue said:
Marvin said:
This week I read some telling comments from Pellegrini on Richards and Rodwell saying that these players could not play with the intensity required because of the injuries and games they had missed.

Unfortunately I can't find the article now

That maybe true. But who is to blame for that? Not the players. Poor management

I think Pellegrini has done a good job, but in this period in the season we need a full squad, and we have effectively lost two key players.

If they play today, they will be below their potential level. That's maybe why Pellegrini doesn't play them, but he allowed that situation to develop. It's hard to apportion blame, when maybe there is none, but I think there were occasions when they could have played earlier in the season.

If these players leave in the Summer, they will go on to do very well elsewhere.
Managers fault ,maybe you didn't watch against Watford FFS !

P.s. Absolutely no way in the world we would be offering 80k a week nowadays,no fuckin chance !
That was my point - they get to a level when you know that if you play them they will be at 75% so what do you do?

Downward spiral. A manager should anticipate that<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:03 pm --<br /><br />
domination said:
Bewar3them00n said:
Thenumber1blue said:
and a South American managers bias towards said players has somewhat curtailed his appearances.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. Pelligrini is not biased towards anyone.

Richards has rarely been fit this season, but when he is and gets a chance, he fluffs it.

I remember when he got back from an injury, Pellegrini dropped Zabaleta and played Richards .. this was against Bayern .. Richards ofcourse didn't take the chance...Ribery was running rings around him.

Bad performances and injuries is what is preventing him from cementing a place in the first team not "south american bias".
You are missing the point as well. Bad performances are a result of injuries and not being played. It's not the players fault. You can't come in off the training ground and perform at 100%. You need to play regularly. Manager has allowed this situation to develop where we have 2 players on our books who by his own admission can't play with the intensity required.
 
Marvin said:
Thenumber1blue said:
Marvin said:
This week I read some telling comments from Pellegrini on Richards and Rodwell saying that these players could not play with the intensity required because of the injuries and games they had missed.

Unfortunately I can't find the article now

That maybe true. But who is to blame for that? Not the players. Poor management

I think Pellegrini has done a good job, but in this period in the season we need a full squad, and we have effectively lost two key players.

If they play today, they will be below their potential level. That's maybe why Pellegrini doesn't play them, but he allowed that situation to develop. It's hard to apportion blame, when maybe there is none, but I think there were occasions when they could have played earlier in the season.

If these players leave in the Summer, they will go on to do very well elsewhere.
Managers fault ,maybe you didn't watch against Watford FFS !

P.s. Absolutely no way in the world we would be offering 80k a week nowadays,no fuckin chance !
That was my point - they get to a level when you know that if you play them they will be at 75% so what do you do?

Downward spiral. A manager should anticipate that

-- Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:03 pm --

domination said:

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. Pelligrini is not biased towards anyone.

Richards has rarely been fit this season, but when he is and gets a chance, he fluffs it.

I remember when he got back from an injury, Pellegrini dropped Zabaleta and played Richards .. this was against Bayern .. Richards ofcourse didn't take the chance...Ribery was running rings around him.

Bad performances and injuries is what is preventing him from cementing a place in the first team not "south american bias".
You are missing the point as well. Bad performances are a result of injuries and not being played. It's not the players fault. You can't come in off the training ground and perform at 100%. You need to play regularly. Manager has allowed this situation to develop where we have 2 players on our books who by his own admission can't play with the intensity required.

We have been playing 3 games a week since the beginning of the season, there's so many games Richards could have played to build up confidence. But as I said before he's almost always injured. As soon he gets a chance he either pulls his hamstring during the game or he performs so badly that the manager has to substitute him.

We can't rely on him anymore, one injury to Zabaleta and we're screwed, we cannot be held hostage anymore, sell him as soon as possible and get someone else in.
 
Micah isn't holding out for more money, he's been offered wages pretty much in line with what he earns at present (very generous as they are).

He could have signed it and pocketed the money, regardless of not knowing what his opportunities would be under Pellegrini, injuries and such.

Think it is more a case of Micah hedging his bets and another 12 months off his contract duration affords him the best chance of a move away.

His asking price is greatly reduced and he can pick up a generous signing-on fee, elsewhere, to offset the small rise he missed out on by not signing last summer.
 
He'd be a fool to leave

There are only 2 clubs who you can be pretty certain will be competing for trophies next season, and they are City and Chelsea.
 
He thinks the ball is in his court. The club has to be delighted he didn't sign the contract earlier in the season because now we know he is injury prone.

For those of you who think this is about money, it isn't .. it is about playing time .. Micah didn't sign because he wanted to know how much playing time he'd get under the new regime:

"‘I don’t ever want to leave Manchester City with the way it’s going, but it’s one of those where you have to look at your career and say: ‘Are you playing enough? ‘ and come the end of the season I’ll do that. Hopefully I’ll have played enough.’ Richards.

He shot himself in the foot.
 
domination said:
He thinks the ball is in his court. The club has to be delighted he didn't sign the contract earlier in the season because now we know he is injury prone.

For those of you who think this is about money, it isn't .. it is about playing time .. Micah didn't sign because he wanted to know how much playing time he'd get under the new regime:

"‘I don’t ever want to leave Manchester City with the way it’s going, but it’s one of those where you have to look at your career and say: ‘Are you playing enough? ‘ and come the end of the season I’ll do that. Hopefully I’ll have played enough.’ Richards.

He shot himself in the foot.

wasn't it the hamstring?
 

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