Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Probably when the trial ends and all the evidence has been presented.
Can't be more than another day or two if they are questioning him today.
I can see him getting off with it (sadly).

I think he's innocent and can't see him getting jailed. Who noes what happened apart from Webster and this girl but there is no evidence at all and it's her word against his. I thought the trail lasted 5 days

It can't possibly be just her word against his. The CPS wouldn't go near the case without at least a 75% chance of conviction.

I'd say there's a great deal of emphasis on who the child is, at least from what I'm reading from the trial!!

 

[jimharri]

It can't possibly be just her word against his. The CPS wouldn't go near the case without at least a 75% chance of conviction.

Well maybe I am wrong but after the doctors have checked her they have found no evidence of rape. It seems they have nothing on him unless I have missed something?? Or maybe they do have evidence that's not bin made public yet

It's probably not important but the bit you have missed that may be of importance is the trial.

According to a lot on here, the trial is a waste of time. He's guilty, end of.

 

[tidyman]

Well maybe I am wrong but after the doctors have checked her they have found no evidence of rape. It seems they have nothing on him unless I have missed something?? Or maybe they do have evidence that's not bin made public yet

It's probably not important but the bit you have missed that may be of importance is the trial.

According to a lot on here, the trial is a waste of time. He's guilty, end of.

That goes for pretty much every trial though to be fair.

Don't think it's anything personal.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Probably when the trial ends and all the evidence has been presented.
Can't be more than another day or two if they are questioning him today.
I can see him getting off with it (sadly).

I think he's innocent and can't see him getting jailed. Who noes what happened apart from Webster and this girl but there is no evidence at all and it's her word against his. I thought the trail lasted 5 days

It can't possibly be just her word against his. The CPS wouldn't go near the case without at least a 75% chance of conviction.

Well according to the report just then on sky news that's exactly what it is

One word against the others
And the jury will have a tough decision.

 

[2sheikhs]

I think he's innocent and can't see him getting jailed. Who noes what happened apart from Webster and this girl but there is no evidence at all and it's her word against his. I thought the trail lasted 5 days

It can't possibly be just her word against his. The CPS wouldn't go near the case without at least a 75% chance of conviction.

Well according to the report just then on sky news that's exactly what it is

One word against the others
And the jury will have a tough decision.

The jury wouldn't have a difficult decision at all in that case then mate. She says, "he abused me". The jury says, "prove it". She says, "I can't. You'll just have to take my word for it."
I might as well say he'd pinned me down and bummed me. Even if I went to the police station and farted his muck out onto the sergeants desk, I'd also have to prove it was done against my will.
You can't send someone down with zero evidence.

 

[worsleyweb]

I went into the public gallery today for an hour. All I will say is none of us have any idea if he is guilty or not. Listen to the defence for 5 minutes and you may think no, listen to the prosecution cross examine him and you may think yes. Only a jury who listen to all the evidence over two weeks are in a position to judge fairly.

Those who are saying he is guilty are wrong to do so. Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

It can't possibly be just her word against his. The CPS wouldn't go near the case without at least a 75% chance of conviction.

Well according to the report just then on sky news that's exactly what it is

One word against the others
And the jury will have a tough decision.

You can't send someone down with zero evidence.

I do agree with that mate
And I thought like you that there must be another witness or strong evidence

Unless something else has yet to come out.

 

[worsleyweb]

My understanding in trials is that the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove that the defendant did it. If they can't prove that beyond reasonable doubt then a not guilty verdict would be recorded???

In cases where it is one persons word against another I am guessing that there is no proof??? And it's hard to get a conviction.

I guess we will have to wait and see.<br /><br />-- Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:02 pm --<br /><br />My understanding in trials is that the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove that the defendant did it. If they can't prove that beyond reasonable doubt then a not guilty verdict would be recorded???

In cases where it is one persons word against another I am guessing that there is no proof??? And it's hard to get a conviction.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[fredmont]

After reading court accounts on scribble live , not guilty in my opinion.

 

[stimo]

Not suggesting she should be identified, I believe neither should be.

I agree. Both parties should remain anonymous until a guilty verdict has been reached. If the accused is found not guilty, then their identity remains undisclosed.

Completely agree .....

nobody should be named until they're found guilty.

i havent read through this so sorry if already been said but i was just having this conversation with somebody on twitter. the victim has annonymity as soon as they make the claims, and that annonymity stays regardless of whether the accused is found guilty or not. that is fair enough. the accused, however, gets their name plastered all over the newspapers. ruins their home life, job, abuse, family etc...regardless of whether they are found guilty or not. the only reason we see these stories is because journalists are given the freedom to report the cases (remaining unbiased to be fair) citing their job is to inform the public of justice being handed out.

i had to write an essay on this for uni and got a really good mark, so easy to argue against its untrue!!