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Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)
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BlueHammer85
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Hope he gets back on TV and gets his life back on track. No way should being innocent mean he has to hide from everyone for the rest of his life.
Markt85 said:Hope he gets back on TV and gets his life back on track. No way should being innocent mean he has to hide from everyone for the rest of his life.
He wasn't doing much hiding last night so I think we can all rest easy that that isn't going to be a problem to him.
johnmc
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So his self confessed "dark secret" was going to the pub and having a few pints every night. A secret so dark he did it in public. Ok.
tidyman said:Markt85 said:Hope he gets back on TV and gets his life back on track. No way should being innocent mean he has to hide from everyone for the rest of his life.
He wasn't doing much hiding last night so I think we can all rest easy that that isn't going to be a problem to him.
Was he getting merry in a pub in hale
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As far as I know he's banned from most of them, allegedlybobmcfc said:tidyman said:Markt85 said:Hope he gets back on TV and gets his life back on track. No way should being innocent mean he has to hide from everyone for the rest of his life.
He wasn't doing much hiding last night so I think we can all rest easy that that isn't going to be a problem to him.
Was he getting merry in a pub in hale
peoffrey said:mike1923 said:peoffrey said:It strikes me as being deeply classless on his part. He should've got out of there immediately and away from the public eye. Instead a self-confessed alcoholic goes drinking.
While I agree with you that it's a bit classless, I can hardly blame the guy for having a bit of a chip on his shoulder after being dragged through a trial for something he hasn't done. Can you?
Can you imagine what state he's in now if he's still drinking since he became free to go? He's also frequently cheated on his Wife despite having Children with her. Why is he still down the Pub every night? There's having a chip on your shoulder and then there's having no self control.
Besides, he's been found not guilty and hasn't been found innocent. There's so much we don't know here.
What exactly is your problem with people who like a drink, Peoffrey?
And what does this tale of a Northern actor being found not guilty in Manchester Crown Court really matter to a trendy, London socialite such as yourself?
Pigeonho
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He's innocent of the alleged crime, but that's not enough, hence people finding one thing else to have a go at him about.The Flash said:peoffrey said:mike1923 said:While I agree with you that it's a bit classless, I can hardly blame the guy for having a bit of a chip on his shoulder after being dragged through a trial for something he hasn't done. Can you?
Can you imagine what state he's in now if he's still drinking since he became free to go? He's also frequently cheated on his Wife despite having Children with her. Why is he still down the Pub every night? There's having a chip on your shoulder and then there's having no self control.
Besides, he's been found not guilty and hasn't been found innocent. There's so much we don't know here.
What exactly is your problem with people who like a drink, Peoffrey?
And what does this tale of a Northern actor being found not guilty in Manchester Crown Court really matter to a trendy, London socialite such as yourself?
StrangewaysHereWeCome
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He strikes me as the sort of person who prefers a longer cuff so that he may wipe the snot from his nostrilGaylord du Bois said:I'm sure both of them would've made a better job of his cuffs.mcmanus said:Gaylord du Bois said:His choice in taylor.
Gareth or Bob?
i think its clearly an act of someone being extremely vindictive, i believe he had a terrible divorce and is hated by his ex and family !!
i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
that said, i was listening to a guy on sky news this morning and he said that in these type of cases they name the person, in the hope more victims will come out and feel comfortable to testify. i think he said after Jimmy Saville was named there was something like 50+ people came forward. Although in this case how the CPS allowed it to go to trial is beyond. Maybe he can get back to fiddling with undercarriages on corrie now
i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
that said, i was listening to a guy on sky news this morning and he said that in these type of cases they name the person, in the hope more victims will come out and feel comfortable to testify. i think he said after Jimmy Saville was named there was something like 50+ people came forward. Although in this case how the CPS allowed it to go to trial is beyond. Maybe he can get back to fiddling with undercarriages on corrie now
johnmc
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mekonmcfc said:i think its clearly an act of someone being extremely vindictive, i believe he had a terrible divorce and is hated by his ex and family !!
i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
that said, i was listening to a guy on sky news this morning and he said that in these type of cases they name the person, in the hope more victims will come out and feel comfortable to testify. i think he said after Jimmy Saville was named there was something like 50+ people came forward. Although in this case how the CPS allowed it to go to trial is beyond. Maybe he can get back to fiddling with undercarriages on corrie now
It is pretty much common knowledge who the girl is though so she cant get on with her life. People are quick to say he is innocent but what about if he isnt and has been found not guilty purely due to lack of evidence? What about the girl then - how does she feel. Not only has she had the ordeal but is also being called a liar when she looks for help?
Im pretty sure she received some abuse on her personal page on a social networking site yesterday so people know who she is.
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johnmc said:mekonmcfc said:i think its clearly an act of someone being extremely vindictive, i believe he had a terrible divorce and is hated by his ex and family !!
i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
that said, i was listening to a guy on sky news this morning and he said that in these type of cases they name the person, in the hope more victims will come out and feel comfortable to testify. i think he said after Jimmy Saville was named there was something like 50+ people came forward. Although in this case how the CPS allowed it to go to trial is beyond. Maybe he can get back to fiddling with undercarriages on corrie now
It is pretty much common knowledge who the girl is though so she cant get on with her life. People are quick to say he is innocent but what about if he isnt and has been found not guilty purely due to lack of evidence? What about the girl then - how does she feel. Not only has she had the ordeal but is also being called a liar when she looks for help?
Im pretty sure she received some abuse on her personal page on a social networking site yesterday so people know who she is.
As with many rape cases, it's impossible to know who is telling the truth here. One person's word against another rarely stands up in court but that doesn't necessarily mean the accuser is lying or the accused is guilty. What we do know is that there are vindictive people out there that will try to stitch someone up with a false rape allegation but not every rape case that doesn't end in a conviction will be the result of a false accusation. In 2011 there were over 16,000 reported rapes in the UK yet only 7% resulted in a conviction. It would be absurd to assume that the other 93% were entirely made up of false allegations.
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who is it ? pm please thxjohnmc said:mekonmcfc said:i think its clearly an act of someone being extremely vindictive, i believe he had a terrible divorce and is hated by his ex and family !!
i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
that said, i was listening to a guy on sky news this morning and he said that in these type of cases they name the person, in the hope more victims will come out and feel comfortable to testify. i think he said after Jimmy Saville was named there was something like 50+ people came forward. Although in this case how the CPS allowed it to go to trial is beyond. Maybe he can get back to fiddling with undercarriages on corrie now
It is pretty much common knowledge who the girl is though so she cant get on with her life. People are quick to say he is innocent but what about if he isnt and has been found not guilty purely due to lack of evidence? What about the girl then - how does she feel. Not only has she had the ordeal but is also being called a liar when she looks for help?
Im pretty sure she received some abuse on her personal page on a social networking site yesterday so people know who she is.
johnmc
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M18CTID said:As with many rape cases, it's impossible to know who is telling the truth here. One person's word against another rarely stands up in court but that doesn't necessarily mean the accuser is lying or the accused is guilty. What we do know is that there are vindictive people out there that will try to stitch someone up with a false rape allegation but not every rape case that doesn't end in a conviction will be the result of a false accusation. In 2011 there were over 16,000 reported rapes in the UK yet only 7% resulted in a conviction. It would be absurd to assume that the other 93% were entirely made up of false allegations.
Indeed. You would probably expect the actual number of false reports to be the 7% figure.
M18CTID said:In 2011 there were over 16,000 reported rapes in the UK yet only 7% resulted in a conviction. It would be absurd to assume that the other 93% were entirely made up of false allegations.
I dunno. At least 90% of the blokes on here seem to have a mate who they know for a fact had their lives ruined by women who falsely accused them of rape for no apparent reason.
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johnmc said:So his self confessed "dark secret" was going to the pub and having a few pints every night. A secret so dark he did it in public. Ok.
i think the 'dark secret' actually refers to the mulitple extra-marital affairs he had when his wife was in hospital being treated for beast cancer. could be wrong though.
johnmc
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warpig said:johnmc said:So his self confessed "dark secret" was going to the pub and having a few pints every night. A secret so dark he did it in public. Ok.
i think the 'dark secret' actually refers to the mulitple extra-marital affairs he had when his wife was in hospital being treated for beast cancer. could be wrong though.
Indeed you are correct Gareth.
Not sure many would sleep with him without it being for a kiss and tell - hardly yourself now is he.
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mekonmcfc said:i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
Michael Le Vell will just get on with his life now , he's been judged to be innocent of all charges ....... he'll just carry on with his every day life the way that Craig Charles has.
As for the girl ....... well she's been judged to have made things up from what i can see ..... so let's say that she suffers a genuine sex attack in the future , who's NOW gonna believe her ????
black mamba said:mekonmcfc said:i dont think he should of been named prior to trial, and the person that made this up will never be named and can get on with her life without any comeback, but has completely tarnished her accused forever.
Michael Le Vell will just get on with his life now , he's been judged to be innocent of all charges ....... he'll just carry on with his every day life the way that Craig Charles has.
As for the girl ....... well she's been judged to have made things up from what i can see ..... so let's say that she suffers a genuine sex attack in the future , who's NOW gonna believe her ????
So the judge said she made it up ?