Middle East Conflict

Are you sure you aren't confusing an understanding of why attacks like October 7th happen with downplaying the severity of (or, as you put it, Hamas's responsibility for) the attack?

I haven't seen anyone who hasn't condemned the attack.
A number of attempts have been made to downplay what happened or claim Israel was responsible for many of the deaths themselves. Or indeed to claim certain things didn't happen.
Admiditly a lot is simply reposting Twitter or other posts where the provinance of the original author just doesn't exist. But by reposting there is an implicet approval of the post.
 
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Are you sure you aren't confusing an understanding of why attacks like October 7th happen
So we need to be understanding of those who murder, rape and kidnap do we?

Typical comment showing the moral depravity of the terrorist sympathisers and apologists in this thread, and why I largely stay out of it now. "Yeah we all condemn it but we understand why it happens".

It's a fucking moral cesspit.
 
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A belief without a rational foundation and knowledge is merely a prejudice.

There was another horrid situation that existed in Gaza before October 7th, and that was the incarceration and repression of a population of 2.3 million people in a small strip of land where the air, land and sea is controlled by a hostile power which also controls the food, water, fuel, power, medical supplies at a subsistence level. Where there is no opportunity to develop an economy, which has an unemployment rate of 40% with the available jobs paying barely enough survive on. There are people in Gaza who have never known what it is like to eat a full meal.
On top of all this the separation wall is an automated killing machine with remote cameras, sensors and guns. Where cameras and automated point directly a people's houses and roofs of houses waiting to detect movement before immediately opening fire.
On top of this again, the IDF regularly bombs the Strip in what they call "mowing the lawn", designed to degrade infrastructure and any development the residents of this concentration camp may have managed to build up since the last time the lawn was mowed.
No one can live under the conditions Israel imposes on the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.
The only surprising thing about this is that it took as long as it did for the Palestinians to rise up and fight back in anyway they could.


This conflict did not start on October 7th.
You really need to look a bit deeper at the occupation. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube, made by reputable journalists and news organisations that you need to look at and then come back hand on heart and tell us if you would be willing to live under those conditions without wanting to fight for your family, your house, your land and your people.
Well aware of the historical scenario in this region, and I've mentioned before that people will pick a specific timeframe to support their point of view. Just for clarity, is the "Palestinians rising up" part in relation to Oct 7th?
 
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So we need to be understanding of those who murder, rape and kidnap do we?

Typical comment showing the moral depravity of the terrorist sympathisers and apologists in this thread, and why I largely stay out of it now. "Yeah we all condemn it but we understand why it happens".

It's a fucking moral cesspit.
And yet your silent when Palestinian children are imprisoned in Israeli jails without trial? Or when kids are shot in the head by IDF because they’re throwing stones, and that’s without discussing the land grabs and mass murder by Israel on a regular basis.

See here’s the issue, no one can support the Palestinians without being called terrorist sympathisers or Antisemites.


The hypocrisy is off this fucking scale.
 

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