Middle East Conflict

For now yes. But Israel won't exist forever.
The only way Israel ceases to exist is if the surrounding Arab states rise up against. However that could well be game over for everyone as nuclear war would probably ensure.
More likely scenario is the US and Israel keep Saudi, Jordan et al onside whilst continuing to suppress the Palestinians as has been the case for a long time.
 
The only way Israel ceases to exist is if the surrounding Arab states rise up against. However that could well be game over for everyone as nuclear war would probably ensure.
More likely scenario is the US and Israel keep Saudi, Jordan et al onside whilst continuing to suppress the Palestinians as has been the case for a long time.

Which is more likely with how they have behaved in this war. Turkey may also have a role to play.

And given that Israel spies on the UAE in developing Submarines, we know it has ambitions to be a dominant regional military power.

I believe that the superpowers would intervene to stop Israel using nuclear weapons. They also haven't ever publicly confirmed they have them. So whilst they have viable stocks it likely something that they can threaten the whole world with.

Demographic shift will end Israel. And it would be a net gain for stability and peace in the world.
 
You're probably right, it might even be called a greater Israel, who knows.
Britain is made up of 3 Celtic nations and 1 saxon/Norman. Arabs and Jew are both semitic as apparently were the Phoenicians.
I wonder if the Palestinians and Jews are genetically more similar than say the Scots and the English. And if they are maybe in 200 years there'll be a Greater Levant which contains 3 countries Israel, Palestine and Lebanon. All doing business together successfully putting the past behind them.
 
Britain is made up of 3 Celtic nations and 1 saxon/Norman. Arabs and Jew are both semitic as apparently were the Phoenicians.
I wonder if the Palestinians and Jews are genetically more similar than say the Scots and the English. And if they are maybe in 200 years there'll be a Greater Levant which contains 3 countries Israel, Palestine and Lebanon. All doing business together successfully putting the past behind them.

Between Judaism and Islam I doubt it mate, but we can hope.
 
Haaretz published an analysis by an Israeli academic about a week ago saying that 61% of the deaths in Gaza have been civilians, a higher percentage, they say, than the average figure for all wars in the 20th century, and considerably higher than the figure for Israeli wars in Gaza between 2012 and 2022, which averaged 40% civilian casualties. I'd hardly describe their previous wars as 'humane' but the dramatic escalation in violence against civilians is striking and needs explanation.

It might be the case that their escalating violence will finally force major world powers (especially the US) to stop funding and arming them, but you can hardly say this is the deliberate strategy of Netanyahu et al, more just a (possible) outcome of them finally going too far.

Get the feeling you've put me on mute for some reason, but in case you haven't - I think you're right that this is (part of) the statement they are making. However, if they wanted the people in Gaza to conclude there was a better alternative they might be, for example, making sure to work with the PA in the West Bank, preventing settler violence, putting a stop to evictions in East Jerusalem, ending new settlement construction, and so on. I.e. letting the people in Gaza know that they would get something out of peace.
I don't have anyone on Ignore, though in this thread there are a few candidates (not including yourself though). The problem is that I have a life and a very demanding full time job. Seemingly unlike many posting in here, who seem to spend all their waking hours either looking for videos that confirm their prejudices or posting the same thing ad nauseam in this thread.

I'm also, while very critical of the Israeli government, not obsessed by Israel's existence and actions. Unlike some in here.

Nor am I a latent antisemite. Unlike some in here.

Hope that answers your question.
 

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