Middle East Conflict

[Blue and true]

This thread has become a graveyard for the truth and is now openly just propaganda.

And what is the truth?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

And what is the truth?

That's for the Zionists to decide and define. And mere mortals to nod along and do as they are told.

 

[west didsblue]

I haven't seen such posts, but that could be construed as anti-Semitism, yes. The definition itself is prone to the vagaries of context; they should have the right to their own homeland but then so should the Palestinians, given the historical legacy of the land? And both parties in this perpetual conflict should refrain from being the aggressor. As I've said on numerous occasions, a peaceful recognition of a joint-state is the only way out of this mess; and until such resolution arrives neither side can wield pejorative constructs as justification for their actions.

They have mostly been removed just leaving the less explicit ones questioning Israel’s right to exist.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

True but he’s still light years in front of Starmer.

That waller needs to sort his shit out on this subject as well.

 

[mexico1970]

And what is the truth?

Fuck only knows, when the fog of war lifts we will be told what the truth is, and I would have very little confidence in that either.

 

[BayernMan]

Mask off….

 

[west didsblue]

Mask off….

He’s an opportunistic **** using Hamas’ atrocities as justification for his long term stance. I’ve long said that Hamas and Netanyahu’s government provide each other with cover for the atrocities they both perpetrate which allows them to cement their positions. Fortunately the democratic nature of Israel and Netanyahu’s clear failure to protect the population will hopefully mean that he will be gone following the next election. Sadly the Palestinians do not have that democratic option to rid themselves of Hamas and Israel’s actions are shoring up support for them in spite of the suffering they are enduring.

 

[BayernMan]

I’m shocked to say this is one of the clearest takes on the situation.

 

[bluethrunthru]

So lets get this straight. There was contact and shots were exchanged. HAMAS fled and left Israeli hostages behind. They could hear IDF forces close by and wanted to surrender to them. Having probably been aware that the IDF strip prisoners to "check they are not suicide bombers " they stripped to the waits and used something - probably one of their white shirts - and a stick to make a white flag which they waved as they blinked and moved out into the sunshine shouting in Hebrew - one would presume "don't shoot" - and the IDF gunned them down.

That is the fault of HAMAS it seems and the Israeli Govt wash their hands of the whole thing.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Jeez I thought Bernardo had gotten involved in this shit then! That would be the end of his career!