Middle East Conflict

The blue phantom said:
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What a great protest. I work right near one of the buildings they operate in and the vast majority of people who work there don’t work for that company and most people don’t have a clue what they are protesting about. They stormed an empty office building the other week.

I’m all for protesting, but what is that going to achieve?
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
What a great protest. I work right near one of the buildings they operate in and the vast majority of people who work there don’t work for that company and most people don’t have a clue what they are protesting about. They stormed an empty office building the other week.

I’m all for protesting, but what is that going to achieve?
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How would you suggest they go about it then? Assuming the aim is to highlight the links between this company and the current military action.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
How would you suggest they go about it then? Assuming the aim is to highlight the links between this company and the current military action.
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Maybe have a protest in Piccadilly gardens instead? Please tell me how throwing paint and blocking an entrance to a building helps them highlight this issue.

As I said most of the people who work in the offices they do don’t even work for them.
 
BayernMan said:


Imagine thinking this makes you look good. I guess they expected starving people to cue in an orderly manner…
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Too right. Just refer to their (edit: IDF and Israel spokespersons) responses on these events in the past few days

At first they announced that they were not in any way involved in the food aid deaths.

Then there was news of food aid trucks being shot at and attacked by IDF, and they denied that the news were true.

Then the evidence was mounting and the IDF then confirmed and admitted that they did shoot and attack at Gazans on the food aid trucks, in an act of protecting the IDF, but no Gazan was killed.

Then when there were Gazans killed confirmed, they shifted the agenda and stated that there were several food aid trucks events that involved the IDF acts, but the ones killed were separate events that they have no news of.

All these denials by IDF were when pressed on international news channels.

OK.

At least 104 Gazans were killed by IDF attack when getting aid from the food trucks on 29 February.

77 Gazans were killed when getting aid from food trucks the day before on 28 February

More than 1000 injured in the food aid truck events.

If future food aid trucks involve stampede as how IDF put heavy importance on it, then why the stampedes happen, if at all, in the first place?
 
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Maybe have a protest in Piccadilly gardens instead? Please tell me how throwing paint and blocking an entrance to a building helps them highlight this issue.

As I said most of the people who work in the offices they do don’t even work for them.
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Ah, I see. You can protest as long as you do it in a certain designated area and inconvenience no-one, including those who you're protesting against. It's kinda like the Just Stop Oil protests. People say "Why are you protesting at the tennis/art gallery/snooker? Go after the real polluters." And then when protesters go after the actual 'culprits,' they still get criticised. It's almost like people criticise the tactics as a cover for criticising a protest they disagree with.

As for your first question, well you're talking about it, so clearly it has highlighted the issue. If they'd done it in Piccadilly Gardens, I guarantee not only would you not be discussing it now, you wouldn't have even heard about it. It would have been lost in the sea of other Palestine-related protests, and no-one would know about this particular bank's investments.

I also don't get this "most of the people who work there don't work for this bank" argument. If I was in New York and I wanted to protest against Donald Trump, and I decided to go to Trump Tower to do it, would it be relevant that most of the offices are rented out to other companies?
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Ah, I see. You can protest as long as you do it in a certain designated area and inconvenience no-one, including those who you're protesting against. It's kinda like the Just Stop Oil protests. People say "Why are you protesting at the tennis/art gallery/snooker? Go after the real polluters." And then when protesters go after the actual 'culprits,' they still get criticised. It's almost like people criticise the tactics as a cover for criticising a protest they disagree with.

As for your first question, well you're talking about it, so clearly it has highlighted the issue. If they'd done it in Piccadilly Gardens, I guarantee not only would you not be discussing it now, you wouldn't have even heard about it. It would have been lost in the sea of other Palestine-related protests, and no-one would know about this particular bank's investments.

I also don't get this "most of the people who work there don't work for this bank" argument. If I was in New York and I wanted to protest against Donald Trump, and I decided to go to Trump Tower to do it, would it be relevant that most of the offices are rented out to other companies?
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The Just Stop Oil protests never achieved anything except for universal hatred from the general public because of their (illegal) methods.

Do have a car? If so would you be personally okay with Just Stop Oil lying in front of your drive so you couldn't get to work? Of course you wouldn't, so why should office workers and this bank be subjected to intimidation and damage to their workplace?

At the end of the day the line is drawn if a protester breaks the law and trashing a building is criminal damage period.
 
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