Middle East Conflict

cucumberman said:
Back to Gaza will reminisce the time when Haganah Irgun and Lehi attacking British troops. We abandoned Palestine quicktime in 1948 because of the increasing tension and animosity and hatred of Zionists against us.

Never forget that inside the majority moderate and ambivalent Jews who longed for the State of Israel and willing to wait for a political and win-win solution for us, Jews and Palestinians, there was that terror cell called Lehi. The cell that sought partnership with Nazis to throw us out of at that time British mandate Palestine.

They were very willing to join forces with Nazis.They signed the Havaara Agreement, they conducted assassinations on our soldiers and our prime ministers. Zettler and Stern were just the two of the leaders of Lehi, as the offshoot of Irgun, open to ally with Nazis.

Remember that the first steam ship (SS Tel Aviv) of Jews moving to Palestine was hoisting which flag.

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How about that commemorative coin…

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And here’s a list of British soldiers and officers killed in Palestine by Zionist Lehi before the 1st Nakba.

  1. T.G. Martin, British Police Sergeant. Executed at tennis court, Sep 1946
  2. Major John Doran, and a number of British soldiers. Food Control Office bombed, Sep 1946
  3. British soldiers dead and wounded by hundreds. Bombed the cars of British soldiers during curfew, 1946
  4. British soldiers killed by dozens. Car bomb attack. Dec 1946
  5. British police sergeant. Shot and killed outside of police station. The police station then after bombed and policemen killed. Jan 1947
  6. British officers killed. Barclays Bank. Feb 1947
  7. A British officer and 3 policemen killed. Commanders Office. Apr 1947
  8. Assistant Superintendent of Police Albert Conquest. Killed by submachine gun. Spins Store. Apr 1947.
  9. British soldiers killed, because in response to British detaining Lehi youth Alex Rubowitz, May 1947.
  10. Major Roy Farran’s brother, killed by mail bomb. own house.
  11. 50 British soldiers and policemen. Killed by bombing. Ben Yehuda Street. Jan 1948
  12. George White and William Alfred Harrison, British bomb experts requested by Arabs to help defuse the Zionist bombs. They failed, bombed exploded and killed the two British Experts and Arabs. Mar 1948.
  13. British soldiers and officers killed. Romema, Apr 1948
  14. 338 British soldiers killed throughout the war. The british soldiers left Palestine immediately days after Israel Independence, 14 May 1948 4:00PM.
Other attacks outside Palestine include the many assassination attempts. On General Evelyn Barker, Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin, Baron Moyne Walter Edward Guiness (assassinated in Cairo).

After the IDF was established, the Lehi, Irgun and Haganah registered into the IDF. In years after, prominent leaders held high government offices, including Prime Ministers - Yitzhak Shamir (formerly Lehi leader who attacked British in Palestine), Menachem Begin (formerly Irgun leader who attacked British in Palestine, including bombing the British HQ in King David Hotel).

In the 1940s, our troops were defensive of Arabs and against the mass immigration of illegal Jew refugees. The process was meant to be through legal means. But that is against the Zionist terror cells‘ perception of the Promised Land. It’s not a surprise that after the Israel independence, the Nakba happened after.

Most importantly, do not conflate all Jews as complying to the right wing Greater Zionism. As early as 1910 that US Jews were against the Zionism and the establishment of Israel.
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I googled that commemorative coin. Here's an article from the Bundeszentrale für Politische Bildung (German Federal Agency for Civic Education) about the history behind it. You can run it through translate quite easily.
https://www.bpb.de/themen/nationals...artikelserie-ein-nazi-faehrt-nach-palaestina/

Basically they came from a trip that an SS officer and a Berlin-based Zionist did to Palestine together in 1933, when the latter was trying to persuade the Nazis to support and facilitate Jewish emigration. It represents a brief, only partial alliance, including only a small part of the overall Zionist movement, from a very specific time and context.

More generally I think it's extremely ahistorical to imply a close and continuing relationship between Zionism and the Nazis, just like it's ahistorical when people like Netanyahu drum up a few tenuous connections in the 1940s to claim a close relationship between Palestinians and Nazis. It's basically bullshit in both cases. There's many, many reasons to criticise the Zionist movement in the late 1940s - and later - but this angle really is an incredibly minor part of it in my view.
 
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