Middle East Conflict

You really think this is the case? You mustn't have seen the videos of the Israeli fans chanting disgusting songs, tearing down flags etc. Seems there was a violent presence on both sides (and I hate using that term) last night. Doubtless there were peaceful Israeli fans caught up in the crossfire, too

Anti-semitism is clearly on the rise across Europe and the Middle East, but it's not out of hatred for Jews 'just being Jews', it's down to a psychopathic government committing atrocities in the religion's name.
Kind of sounds like you’re trying to justify it. Innocent people were being attacked because they were Jewish in Amsterdam. There’s no justification for that ever.
 
Ajax, like Spurs, are known as a 'Jewish' club for various reasons. The attacks on Israelis seem to have taken place outside the stadium, apparently involving groups of Arabs.

Ironic that some of those vehemently decrying attacks on innocent Palestinians are disgustingly cheering this attack on Jews, just for being Jews, who may have all sorts of varying views on what's happening in Gaza & Lebanon. Some of you are utterly abhorrent.

If Bluemoon had been around in the 1930's, the aftermath of Kristallnacht would have been interesting.

You're preaching to the wrong crowd really. Tottenham probably had the worst racist abuse out of any club in the world for over 50 years. How many clubs up and down the country sang about Belsen, Austwitz and pro Hitler songs?

As for Ajax, they have always been staunch Israeli for decades. There hasn't been a big issue for it, maybe some of them Italian clubs and Eastern European backward countries.

Amsterdam for me, in European history, is one of the most liberal cities there has ever been. Centuries of acceptance. This is sad what has happened, football and politics should never mix. Unfortunately, and you're well aware, that many posters celebrated Spurs fans getting stabbed by Lazio far right fans. There still lays some deep-seated hatred for the Jewish community.

The Israeli conflict will only add to that and now we see its becoming a common occurrence
 
Football until recently has always kept free of politics. The nearest it ever got was Remembrance Day. It’s a sad day for football imo. Once it starts it will escalate, the game should be the focus, the football ground should be sacrosanct politics and religion should be left out imo.
Nonsense. The media and the top politicians are full of people who are quite happy to turn a blind eye to genocide and israel breaking international law on a daily basis. Football (and other things) give people the chance to speak up. It gives people a voice

Interestingly a lot of the same people turning a blind eye to the bombing of hospitals, schools, children, women etc on a daily basis are "outraged" at last nights events, and seemingly only able to speak up for one side whilst completely ignoring that a large group of tel aviv hooligans went on the rampage (and not for the first time) attacking people and places in amsterdam and then had their arses handed to them (guess they're not so tough when they're not blowing small children up from a safe distance).

Israel said themselves that they're ethnically cleansing northern gaza two days ago (or have already done so, in fact) - which should be front page news everywhere and everyone should be speaking up against that because everyone knows it's wrong and we all know that never again should mean never again for everyone, but barely a peep about it from western media

At least 39 Palestinians have been killed and 123 wounded in Israeli attacks across Gaza in the past 24 hours, mostly women and children. This has been a daily event for over a year, and barely a peep, but a few people injured at a football game and it's "outrage" and suddenly people take a casual interest for a short amount of time again


Shame. Genocide
 
Nonsense. The media and the top politicians are full of people who are quite happy to turn a blind eye to genocide and israel breaking international law on a daily basis. Football (and other things) give people the chance to speak up. It gives people a voice

Interestingly a lot of the same people turning a blind eye to the bombing of hospitals, schools, children, women etc on a daily basis are "outraged" at last nights events, and seemingly only able to speak up for one side whilst completely ignoring that a large group of tel aviv hooligans went on the rampage (and not for the first time) attacking people and places in amsterdam and then had their arses handed to them (guess they're not so tough when they're not blowing small children up from a safe distance).

Israel said themselves that they're ethnically cleansing northern gaza two days ago (or have already done so, in fact) - which should be front page news everywhere and everyone should be speaking up against that because everyone knows it's wrong and we all know that never again should mean never again for everyone, but barely a peep about it from western media

At least 39 Palestinians have been killed and 123 wounded in Israeli attacks across Gaza in the past 24 hours, mostly women and children. This has been a daily event for over a year, and barely a peep, but a few people injured at a football game and it's "outrage" and suddenly people take a casual interest for a short amount of time again


Shame. Genocide
So you're quite OK with Jews being attacked simply because they're Jews are you Alex?
 
Nonsense. The media and the top politicians are full of people who are quite happy to turn a blind eye to genocide and israel breaking international law on a daily basis. Football (and other things) give people the chance to speak up. It gives people a voice

Interestingly a lot of the same people turning a blind eye to the bombing of hospitals, schools, children, women etc on a daily basis are "outraged" at last nights events, and seemingly only able to speak up for one side whilst completely ignoring that a large group of tel aviv hooligans went on the rampage (and not for the first time) attacking people and places in amsterdam and then had their arses handed to them (guess they're not so tough when they're not blowing small children up from a safe distance).

Israel said themselves that they're ethnically cleansing northern gaza two days ago (or have already done so, in fact) - which should be front page news everywhere and everyone should be speaking up against that because everyone knows it's wrong and we all know that never again should mean never again for everyone, but barely a peep about it from western media

At least 39 Palestinians have been killed and 123 wounded in Israeli attacks across Gaza in the past 24 hours, mostly women and children. This has been a daily event for over a year, and barely a peep, but a few people injured at a football game and it's "outrage" and suddenly people take a casual interest for a short amount of time again


Shame. Genocide
I don’t agree that football grounds are the place to bring this up. Outside Government buildings of countries involved. Please don’t call my posts nonsense it’s a disagreement.
 

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