Middle East Conflict

Dishonest people don't debate in good faith. In the past the PLO were as much a thorn in the side of Israel as Hamas were.

They were primarily Secular and even had communist support (including infamous figures like Carlos the Jackal).

It's politics not religion that is the main driver.

So take your filth elsewhere please, I'm not interested in talking to you anymore.

The politics have ensured the Israeli response to the atrocity.
Don't want to appear weak to their enemies nor their own people.
Gotta stay in power.
So we get,what we get.
One day an "advanced" nation will do what is right rather than using their undeniable military might indiscriminately.
 
Which is wrong also.
But is there any consideration for the ordinary piss poor people of the region.
Seems to me they are just canon fodder and shields.
Soon to be statistics to demonstrate revenge to the world.

Absolutely there is consideration from the whole world about innocent civilians.

Israel and the IDF have issued warnings to these civilians to get out of what they deem is now an active battle zone. I appreciate the difficulty in that for many but the warning was and still is being given.

Hamas won’t come out into the open to fight the IDF, they will use innocent civilians as human shields as it adds to their political capitol and last Saturday, no such warnings where given to innocent Israeli civilians.

It’s an horrific situation for everyone involved.

Right or wrong and I firmly believe it right, Israel has decided to try and wipe Hamas out and won’t stop until they believe they have achieved that military goal. Sadly, Gaza will not be recognisable when they have finished, many many more will be dead on both sides but nothing is going to stop what is about to happen other than a Hamas ceasefire and the return of hostages and that simply will not happen.

My opinion is that lies with Hamas and its cowardly terrorist attacks.
 
Absolutely there is consideration from the whole world about innocent civilians.

Israel and the IDF have issued warnings to these civilians to get out of what they deem is now an active battle zone. I appreciate the difficulty in that for many but the warning was and still is being given.

Hamas won’t come out into the open to fight the IDF, they will use innocent civilians as human shields as it adds to their political capitol and last Saturday, no such warnings where given to innocent Israeli civilians.

It’s an horrific situation for everyone involved.

Right or wrong and I firmly believe it right, Israel has decided to try and wipe Hamas out and won’t stop until they believe they have achieved that military goal. Sadly, Gaza will not be recognisable when they have finished, many many more will be dead on both sides but nothing is going to stop what is about to happen other than a Hamas ceasefire and the return of hostages and that simply will not happen.

My opinion is that lies with Hamas and its cowardly terrorist attacks.

Do you think it's possible you hold extreme beliefs?
 
Just to be clear, will this be your stance for eternity now? As in, forget everything in the decades/century's which happened before last Saturday's attacks and disregard anything which happens from now on, every drop of civilian blood will be blamed on Hamas and nobody else? Israel have carte blanche to nuke Gaza and the West Bank and kill as many children as they wish and it'll all be Hamas's fault?

There are (at least) two fucking sides to this and none of them are innocent. Unbelievable.
Well said
 
He'd struggle to hold a job down emptying dog shit bins that tosser.

He may as well have just said "listen of course loads of people won't get out in that time frame if they are trying but we have backed Israel and they will do what they will do anyway"

Its what he is saying anyhow without actually saying it. He knows it, the reporter knows it, I know it and you and everyone else does as well.
 

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