Middle East Conflict

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Why the fuck would we abstain ffs.

Perhaps for the same reason the US actually vetoed it: nonsense about a failure to recognize Israel's right to defend itself. :-/ ?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

You had me up until your last sentence.

I thought that would create food for thought lol. Yes that’s a bit harsh on Biden who’s been unable to speak to Arab leaders due to events.

 

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Article about a past example of Israel's use of Hasabara from 2021. sauce is the Socialist Project.

How Israel’s Hasbara Went Belly-up in the Face of Global Protest.

For 11 days in May of this year, the world watched in horror as Israel’s missile onslaught on the civilians of Gaza went into full swing. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), this latest barrage on the strip resulted in the killing of 278, including 66 children, 39 women, and 17 elderly people, and the wounding 9,000. Nearly 17,000 residential and commercial units were smashed, displacing over 90,000 people.

Israelis targeted and caused widespread damage to some 30 health facilities, seven hospitals, and 11 primary care clinics, in addition to Gaza’s only COVID-19 testing facility, killing its director. Other facilities destroyed were two Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance stations and a clinic caring for mothers and infants.

The bombing also resulted in electricity outages affecting the functioning of medical facilities, while causing damage to the water and sanitary infrastructure, including wastewater networks and the seawater desalination plant.

An industrial area, employing 1,500 people, was targeted repeatedly, causing an estimated loss of $20 to $25-million. When it was under bombardment, fire fighters were called in. When they arrived, they were also targeted, leading to more fires and more damages.

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Israeli army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus misled international media outlets into publishing false news that the Israeli military was preparing a ground invasion of Gaza. Later, it was revealed that this was a deliberate ploy intended to bring Hamas out into the open for easier targeting. When asked, Conricus claimed it was an “honest” mistake.

They even posted an old video from Syria, claiming it was from Gaza. It showed a rapid firing of rockets from what looked like an apartment building in Gaza, thus trying to “prove” that Hamas was using civilians as human shield. The tactic failed because the same video had been posted on YouTube back in December 2019, indicating that it was filmed in a northern Syrian city.

How Israel’s Hasbara Went Belly-up in the Face of Global Protest – Socialist Project

For 11 days in May of this year, the world watched in horror as Israel’s missile onslaught on the civilians of Gaza went into full swing. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), this latest barrage on the strip resulted in the killing of 278, including 66 children, 39 women,…

socialistproject.ca

 

[Postman Pep]

He has worded it slightly different to Lowkey for some reason.

I was picking up on the similarity of the sound rather than his words tbf.

Looks pretty close though.

 

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Watch: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Stage ‘Insurrection’ in U.S. Capitol.​

source is Breitbart.

WATCH: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Stage 'Insurrection' in U.S. Capitol Office Building

Pro-Palestinian protesters, who want a ceasefire that would benefit the Hamas terror organization in Gaza, protested in the Cannon Rotunda.

www.breitbart.com

Anti-Israel Protesters Descend on Downing Street After Media Blamed Israel for Explosion at Gaza Hospital​

Anti-Israel Protesters Descend on Downing Street After Gaza Hospital Blast

Activists protested outside Downing Street in London after an explosion at a Gaza hospital, which the legacy media initially blamed on Israel.

www.breitbart.com

 

[mrbelfry]

Okay, you haven't seen pictures then at all, have you?

It hit a crowded parking lot next to the hospital. There might be several dozens death people. Which is a real tragedy, getting hit while seeking help. But no building was flatten and for sure did not die hundreds of people.

BBC reporting that a hospital bigwig said about 1,000 people were sheltering in the car park. If that's the case it is easy to imagine hundreds of casualties

 

[goalmole]

I think one thing we can all agree on is that we'll never see peace in the middle east

Whil the strongest countries in the world support the strongest country in the MIddle East to oppress and inflict injustice on the most powerless people in the region then I would agree there'll never be peace in the Middle East.

 

[Scottyboi]

I thought that would create food for thought lol. Yes that’s a bit harsh on Biden who’s been unable to speak to Arab leaders due to events.

In his first year he recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and ordered the embassy to move there. And assassinating that Iranian General. He would not be doing better than Biden right now.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Because we are lapdogs to the states.

Are Russia as well ?

 

[Roachy]

Second time you’ve said that and I agree.
As the political forum goes I have to say, given the level of emotive issues arising from current events and the forcefulness of some opposing views, the debate by and large has been analytical and cordial even with its diverse conclusions.

I’ve learned quite a bit, which is always good and I’ve researched areas I’ve wondered about before but either lazily or through pure procrastination haven’t educated myself on.

And there seems to be quite a few on here who just genuinely want justice and are looking in or looking on with an open mind.

The debate has been cordial.

The debate has been enlightening but at times definitely not cordial. Whole conversations covering numerous pages have been removed by the mods, and rightly so with some of the claptrap being posted.