Middle East Conflict

[trueblue1972]

Sadly I think you can’t.

I agree ,that much I can't even like the post , whoever manages that needs a super Nobel peace prize made in their name

 

[i kne albert davy]

Article about a past example of Israel's use of Hasabara from 2021. sauce is the Socialist Project.

How Israel’s Hasbara Went Belly-up in the Face of Global Protest.

For 11 days in May of this year, the world watched in horror as Israel’s missile onslaught on the civilians of Gaza went into full swing. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), this latest barrage on the strip resulted in the killing of 278, including 66 children, 39 women, and 17 elderly people, and the wounding 9,000. Nearly 17,000 residential and commercial units were smashed, displacing over 90,000 people.

Israelis targeted and caused widespread damage to some 30 health facilities, seven hospitals, and 11 primary care clinics, in addition to Gaza’s only COVID-19 testing facility, killing its director. Other facilities destroyed were two Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance stations and a clinic caring for mothers and infants.

The bombing also resulted in electricity outages affecting the functioning of medical facilities, while causing damage to the water and sanitary infrastructure, including wastewater networks and the seawater desalination plant.

An industrial area, employing 1,500 people, was targeted repeatedly, causing an estimated loss of $20 to $25-million. When it was under bombardment, fire fighters were called in. When they arrived, they were also targeted, leading to more fires and more damages.

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Israeli army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus misled international media outlets into publishing false news that the Israeli military was preparing a ground invasion of Gaza. Later, it was revealed that this was a deliberate ploy intended to bring Hamas out into the open for easier targeting. When asked, Conricus claimed it was an “honest” mistake.

They even posted an old video from Syria, claiming it was from Gaza. It showed a rapid firing of rockets from what looked like an apartment building in Gaza, thus trying to “prove” that Hamas was using civilians as human shield. The tactic failed because the same video had been posted on YouTube back in December 2019, indicating that it was filmed in a northern Syrian city.

How Israel’s Hasbara Went Belly-up in the Face of Global Protest – Socialist Project

For 11 days in May of this year, the world watched in horror as Israel’s missile onslaught on the civilians of Gaza went into full swing. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), this latest barrage on the strip resulted in the killing of 278, including 66 children, 39 women,…

socialistproject.ca

I know it's trivial, but could perhaps use source, I keep thinking about what's going on my bacon butty here.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

At least there’s some left in the US that have morals and humanity:

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

The debate has been enlightening but at times definitely not cordial. Whole conversations covering numerous pages have been removed by the mods, and rightly so with some of the claptrap being posted.

Fair enough. I obviously haven’t seen that. I did see a tiff between a few and Chicago Blue but I do tend to think I see posts, perhaps less incendiary than others do.

Sometimes I think on the forum in general, people can choose offence rather than ask for a simple explanation of the opposite view, which quite often clarifies a misinterpretation.

I think by and large, certainly with what is left to read at the moment, that has been done.

I’m not a mod however, so maybe I have no idea of the clean up on aisle 8.

 

[Roachy]

Fair enough. I obviously haven’t seen that. I did see a tiff between a few and Chicago Blue but I do tend to think I see posts, perhaps less incendiary than others do.

Sometimes I think on the forum in general, people can choose offence rather than ask for a simple explanation of the opposite view, which quite often clarifies a misinterpretation.

I think by and large, certainly with what is left to read at the moment, that has been done.

I’m not a mod however, so maybe I have no idea of the clean up on aisle 8.

In agreement with that. Been some interesting stuff on here. Been some right tosh though at times.

 

[rickmcfc]

This isnt a wind up post, please can someone summarise in layman’s terms exactly what the conflict is. Who is fighting who and why? When you look online one source is so varied to the next.

 

[Ducado]

Sadly I think you can’t.

You can, there are numerous examples of it happening

 

[Username Required]

In agreement with that. Been some interesting stuff on here. Been some right tosh though at times.

It may be the length of time I have spent in the U.S. but I always tend to err on the side of more expression, rather than less; and that includes plainly offensive speech or plain old tosh.

 

[JASR]

This isnt a wind up post, please can someone summarise in layman’s terms exactly what the conflict is. Who is fighting who and why? When you look online one source is so varied to the next.

human believes in fantasy sky human, other human believes in fantasy sky human and special fantasy human. Both humans have fantasy sky human worship buildings in same area. Both humans believe they have the right and the other human is wrong. Both humans have descended down from being humans and kick the crap out of each other.

 

[cleavers]

There are 2 ways to solve the Palestinian issue:
1. Is with an Independent Palestine for the Palestinian people. ( with Israel as a neighbor)

2. To independent Palestine for the Palestinian people without Israel as a neighbor.

Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad ( Not to mention, many a citizen from most Middle Eastern Nations and there diasporan offsprings only want or recognize option 1.

I think you missed "out" in option 1, because the 3 you mention there, want Israel (goverment and jewish people) destroyed as a minimum, not as a neighbour.