Middle East Conflict

[meltonblue]

There are enough real photos doing the rounds just like that (and far worse) it makes no sense to use fakes unless it is to poison the well.

Yup.

 

[Palerider]

Surely Hamas, an organisation/government that admits genocide is it's aim, needs to be stopped. Does anyone disagree with that statement? The problem then becomes how Hamas can be stopped and brought to justice and who should do it. If the UN, the international community, the Palestinians themselves, the Palestinian supporters don't want to do anything about Hamas then what option do the Israeli's have? Idea's anyone? Does it just become justice based on maths, you kill 1000 of us and we will kill 1000 of you?

 

[BlueAnorak]

They have Iron dome don't they?

The invasion wasn't sparked by rocket attacks it was sparked by an invasion of hundreds of militants.

And the militants died at a roughly 1:1 ratio to each Israeli life. They knew they were on suicide missions unless they were part of the crew who went back to Gaza with hostages.

The rockets aren't particularly effective.

Israel isn't likely to be so daft to allow that kind of invasion from Gaza again.

What you are saying is that Israel has the right to kill tens of thousands of people to take out the rockets which kill only a small number of people.

What wonderful whataboutary.

 

[meltonblue]

Photograph Could be real or not.... but definitely those days Palestinians genocide is real ... Israel state crimes for seven decades is real....that's the point lad.....

And you can use real photos to show that.

 

[Bradley82]

If they wipe Hamas out, or their ability to carry out acts of terror, then their security situation will have improved significantly.

I'm staggered (although maybe I shouldn't be) that a number of posters would seemingly prefer a terror group to retain its capacity to inflict deaths and injury on a democratic nation, rather than have that ability removed from them. It's almost like logic gets turned on its head when Jews are involved.

They aren't attacking Hamas alone though. They are murdering civilians and you know that but you seem to believe Israel has some sort of special dispensation to commit war crimes. IF they wipe out Hamas? IF they stop them operating militarily? And they are big "if's" What about what comes next. You think the Arab world will just shrug its shoulders and say fair enough. The biggest recruitment tool the IRA ever had was Bloody Sunday and that was a fucking tea party compared to what's happening in Gaza now. Prefer a terror group! To the best of my knowledge nobody on this site has expressed support for Hamas overtly or otherwise, do you perhaps think it's you imagining it because its not in line with your viewpoint. Have you got a persecution complex when it comes to Israel!. I can tell you now that if the boot was on the other foot I'd be just as angry if Palestinians were slaughtering Israelis and yes I outright condemn what has done and continues to do.

 

[meltonblue]

Who published that?

The image? Not sure where it first came from.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I have not said once that Israel has a right to kill thousands of people, I repeat that Israel must stop bombing Gaza.

However look at the chain of events, Israel is bombing Gaza because Israel was attacked by Hamas and remains under attack from Hamas. If Hamas stops then Israel will stop too and the war ends. I want both to stop, you just want one side to stop.

I'm not going to bother answering your reasoning around Iron Dome and the rocket attacks which threaten Israeli's daily, it's actually moronic.

And what should Israel do if Hamas don't stop?

 

[inbetween]

And what should Israel do if Hamas don't stop?

Exactly.

That's a question for the terrorism apologists and military experts on here.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I have not said once that Israel has a right to kill thousands of people, I repeat that Israel must stop bombing Gaza.

However look at the chain of events, Israel is bombing Gaza because Israel was attacked by Hamas and remains under attack from Hamas. If Hamas stops then Israel will stop too and the war ends. I want both to stop, you just want one side to stop.

I'm not going to bother answering your reasoning around Iron Dome and the rocket attacks which threaten Israeli's daily, it's actually moronic.

That's not the case is it? Israel uses Gaza as a punching bag and bulldozes houses in the West Bank for no reason at all.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

They aren't attacking Hamas alone though. They are murdering civilians and you know that but you seem to believe Israel has some sort of special dispensation to commit war crimes. IF they wipe out Hamas? IF they stop them operating militarily? And they are big "if's" What about what comes next. You think the Arab world will just shrug its shoulders and say fair enough. The biggest recruitment tool the IRA ever had was Bloody Sunday and that was a fucking tea party compared to what's happening in Gaza now. Prefer a terror group! To the best of my knowledge nobody on this site has expressed support for Hamas overtly or otherwise, do you perhaps think it's you imagining it because its not in line with your viewpoint. Have you got a persecution complex when it comes to Israel!. I can tell you now that if the boot was on the other foot I'd be just as angry if Palestinians were slaughtering Israelis and yes I outright condemn what has done and continues to do.

He does. He's an ethnocrat.