Middle East Conflict

mexico1970 said:
And you don't grasp the idea or concept of "Never again" when faced with an enemy that states that very thing as a raison d'etre.

It's not a great leap of faith to believe they mean it is it?
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I grasp it well enough. It doesn't excuse any nation the war crimes they commit. It has no basis as a defence for murdering innocent civilians. You either understand that or you're being wilfully ignorant.
 
Bradley82 said:
I grasp it well enough. It doesn't excuse any nation the war crimes they commit. It has no basis as a defence for murdering innocent civilians. You either understand that or you're being wilfully ignorant.
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I have stated that killing civilians is wrong, if you fail to see what the term "Never again" means for Jews then it is you that is being wilfully ignorant.

Never again applies to the holocaust and to Jews, looks like some people say you have to see it from both sides but genuinely don't mean it.
 
Keeper! said:
I think they passed that point at least a week ago and when are they going to stop?

They need to be careful, many decent people/countries who once support them are now openly questioning them and turning against them and that's only going to make this tragic and horrific time far worse.
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Agreed. I’m one of them.
 
meltonblue said:
Yeah I wasn’t arguing that, just pointing out it isn’t real as it’s doing the rounds today and a lot of people think it is.
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Photograph Could be real or not.... but definitely those days Palestinians genocide is real ... Israel state crimes for seven decades is real....that's the point lad.....
 
meltonblue said:
Yeah I wasn’t arguing that, just pointing out it isn’t real as it’s doing the rounds today and a lot of people think it is.
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There are enough real photos doing the rounds just like that (and far worse) it makes no sense to use fakes unless it is to poison the well.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
They have Iron dome don't they?

The invasion wasn't sparked by rocket attacks it was sparked by an invasion of hundreds of militants.

And the militants died at a roughly 1:1 ratio to each Israeli life. They knew they were on suicide missions unless they were part of the crew who went back to Gaza with hostages.

The rockets aren't particularly effective.

Israel isn't likely to be so daft to allow that kind of invasion from Gaza again.

What you are saying is that Israel has the right to kill tens of thousands of people to take out the rockets which kill only a small number of people.
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I have not said once that Israel has a right to kill thousands of people, I repeat that Israel must stop bombing Gaza.

However look at the chain of events, Israel is bombing Gaza because Israel was attacked by Hamas and remains under attack from Hamas. If Hamas stops then Israel will stop too and the war ends. I want both to stop, you just want one side to stop.

I'm not going to bother answering your reasoning around Iron Dome and the rocket attacks which threaten Israeli's daily, it's actually moronic.
 
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