If anyone was to post video clearly showing the execution of innocent citizens then it would be rightly criticised by everyone imo.
What we get is a video that has no context, no real evidence of anyone being killed, irrespective of who they may or might not be and you are supposed to just lap it up and join in with the narrative.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way and it shouldn't work that way for anyone.
There is aftermath and 4 men are dead in the vehicle, very graphically so. One weapon is taken from the vehicle on video, apparently there was a second not on the video.
If that is evidence they were combatant or just armed civilians its hard to say.
Supposedly she’s posted a rant about killing Israelis and this led to her arrest.
The post referred to settlers rather than Israeli’s and apparently it’s not her account. Even if it was, I wouldn’t be surprised by such a post considering the sickening acts the terrorist bastards commit in the West Bank on a daily basis with impunity and what her family has had to deal with for years.
No I am no Biblical scholar. But I research. Where did I say I was Biblical scholar ?? I am a Christian and no grief with Judaism or Islam , but I can see right from wrong.But if I have said anything incorrect prove me wrong. I can talk about the Biblical floods, Noah, Sumerians who historically mentioned these events.If you follow Biblical lines fom Adam and Eve the world is 7000 years old whereas science suggest 13.8 Billion years. It is a real quandary for me. SSo you're a biblical scholar now and take it literally? That's really the worst argument I've ever heard, and in your post that takes some doing. Do you seriously think that Uganda has the same significance for the Jewish people that Israel, their historic home, does?
There's lots of states that didn't exist 100 years ago that now do. Most of the Middle East and Africa for a start. Many of those were "given" to one group or other. If you can read books without lots of pictures or that don't consist of give-word sentences, I'd recommend James Barr's "A Line In The Sand". The Al Saud tribe's claim to Saudi Arabia is based on conquest of the other tribes (and that conquest was only finally completed about a hundred years ago).
The Hashemites who rule Jordan were Saudis who lost out to the Al Sauds but got some land because they'd also supported the Allies in WW1. Many African countries were formed that arbitrarily brought competing groups within the same boundaries.
Millions of Indians were displaced in 1947 when that country was partitioned. None of those are screaming to go back to their original homes. Pakistan, in fact, is in the process of expelling 1.7m undocumented Afghan refugees, some of whom have lived in Pakistan for decades. Where's your outrage about that? You're probably completely ignorant about it, yet spout the usual ill-informed cliches about Israel/Palestine.
Nd talking of Afghanistan, it's estimated that 2/3rds of the population require humanitarian aid, yet the funds given to the previous regime have been frozen by the countries that previously donated since the Taliban took over. Sounds to me like collective punishment of the Afghan people, yet no one is marching in London demanding that Pakistan stop the deportation.
I read an article a few years back by a Syrian stuck in Syria between attacks from ISIS and his own government. The gist of his article to the west was 'stick your consciences, stick your good words and do fucking something'.I really don’t have to answer before Israel accepts a ceasefire but in the interest of keeping this debate cordial I’ll try my best.
We’ll be waiting a while before Netanyahu agrees to any ceasefire anyway.
Your concern is the safety of Israel and I get that but I think it is as much the actions of Israel as it is any neighbouring country this century and certainly any Palestinian that has jeopardised their security.
They have the capacity to defend themselves and the backing of further military power as a deterrent for anyone else getting involved.
You don’t want a ceasefire, well I’m afraid you will not get any progress without it. I am of the mind that this suits Netanyahu and his party fine. I think it is no great secret that he favours expansionism over security of his own people.
My view is you cannot isolate what’s happening in Gaza and yes I agree Hamas has to be dealt with. You need to look at Palestine as a whole and stop the illegal settlements and apartheid and internment without trial, without charge even.
At what stage do you suggest stopping bombing and start talking.? When Hamas are gone?
What’s left then. Who do you talk to. Who rebuilds. Who picks up the pieces.
What is the plan?
Is it security or is it expansion.?
I know what I think but only time will tell. I wouldn’t believe a word out of the Israeli government no more than I would Hamas.
I don’t think the US and UK have called this right, I think they have their strategic interests covered and that’s sadly predictable.
At the end of the day, I don’t have the answer, I’m not a diplomat, but nobody in here is either.
However you don’t need to be a diplomat to see that you can’t treat people in your jurisdiction the way the Palestinians are treated consistently for decades and not expect trouble.
I recognise injustice when I see it.
To be fair they have been on the receiving end since its independence,And until they do, they will FOREVER be on the receiving end of terrorist attacks. Staggering that supposedly intelligent Israelis - if e.g. Netanyahu - if he is supposed to be intelligent? - cannot grasp this.
I wonder why that is??? Treat people like shit and what do they expect?To be fair they have been on the receiving end since its independence,
Yep, that's about the size of it.Interests back home trump regional interests. Also Israeli military companies are crucial to many core US defensive systems: Trophy (Drone snd Anti-Tank defence), Iron Dome, Iron Beam (Hi-Powered Lazer enhancemen and Arrow.