Middle East Conflict

Ajax, like Spurs, are known as a 'Jewish' club for various reasons. The attacks on Israelis seem to have taken place outside the stadium, apparently involving groups of Arabs.

Ironic that some of those vehemently decrying attacks on innocent Palestinians are disgustingly cheering this attack on Jews, just for being Jews, who may have all sorts of varying views on what's happening in Gaza & Lebanon. Some of you are utterly abhorrent.

If Bluemoon had been around in the 1930's, the aftermath of Kristallnacht would have been interesting.

Do you not think booing and setting off fireworks during a minutes silence for those who have suffered in Valencia and chants of "there are no schools in Gaza cos all the kids are dead" may have had influence on the events?
 
I’m not going to defend the Maccabi fans who behaved like nobheads in the stadium and in the city but to suggest that the violence against them later on was just a reaction to that looks like complete bullshit from the footage I’ve seen. Looked like there were large gangs of people with no colours showing who were just there to kick off with the Israeli fans.
Since when did football fans go round in colours??
 
Ajax, like Spurs, are known as a 'Jewish' club for various reasons. The attacks on Israelis seem to have taken place outside the stadium, apparently involving groups of Arabs.

Ironic that some of those vehemently decrying attacks on innocent Palestinians are disgustingly cheering this attack on Jews, just for being Jews, who may have all sorts of varying views on what's happening in Gaza & Lebanon. Some of you are utterly abhorrent.

If Bluemoon had been around in the 1930's, the aftermath of Kristallnacht would have been interesting.
Comparing the murder of innocent Palestinian children to attacks on football fans who were clearly and deliberately trying to incite violence is disingenuous at best and indicative of propaganda distribution at worst. Hopefully it is the former and not the latter.
 
Needs to be draped in every football stadium in Europe. Maybe then the western leaders will realise their citizens are not on the side of genocide.
Always remember that Hamas caused this.

They should fuck Hamas off if they want to be free....
 
Always remember that Hamas caused this.

They should fuck Hamas off if they want to be free....

If you are a Gazan or a Palestinian then I am afraid you are faced with 3 groups - Hamas, Hezbollah and the IDF. All of them have guns and are happy to see you starve and be killed indiscriminately - how do you as an unarmed civilian child deal with that and free yourself?
 
Ironic that some of those vehemently decrying attacks on innocent Palestinians are disgustingly cheering this attack on Jews, just for being Jews, who may have all sorts of varying views on what's happening in Gaza & Lebanon. Some of you are utterly abhorrent.
You really think this is the case? You mustn't have seen the videos of the Israeli fans chanting disgusting songs, tearing down flags etc. Seems there was a violent presence on both sides (and I hate using that term) last night. Doubtless there were peaceful Israeli fans caught up in the crossfire, too

Anti-semitism is clearly on the rise across Europe and the Middle East, but it's not out of hatred for Jews 'just being Jews', it's down to a psychopathic government committing atrocities in the religion's name.
 
You really think this is the case? You mustn't have seen the videos of the Israeli fans chanting disgusting songs, tearing down flags etc. Seems there was a violent presence on both sides (and I hate using that term) last night. Doubtless there were peaceful Israeli fans caught up in the crossfire, too

Anti-semitism is clearly on the rise across Europe and the Middle East, but it's not out of hatred for Jews 'just being Jews', it's down to a psychopathic government committing atrocities in the religion's name.
I think anti-semitism is why the Jews moved out of Europe and Russia in the first place! Ironic that the hiding place of Anne Frank a top tourist attraction in Amsterdam.
 
If you are a Gazan or a Palestinian then I am afraid you are faced with 3 groups - Hamas, Hezbollah and the IDF. All of them have guns and are happy to see you starve and be killed indiscriminately - how do you as an unarmed civilian child deal with that and free yourself?
It's a relentless situation for them and I have sympathy.

Hamas are scum. Ordinary palestinians (i presume) are just normal folk. Albeit persecuted.

But Hamas brought this on them, although it hasn't been great for them for years they really have made it worse. I don't know what the answer is.
 
Dutch smoke needs to grow up.... Personally attacking folk by private message. Hard man are we.... :D
 
I think anti-semitism is why the Jews moved out of Europe and Russia in the first place! Ironic that the hiding place of Anne Frank a top tourist attraction in Amsterdam.
Talking about the recent rise, not anti-semitism itself. It'd be tough to blame the Holocaust on conflict happening now ;)
 
Football until recently has always kept free of politics. The nearest it ever got was Remembrance Day. It’s a sad day for football imo. Once it starts it will escalate, the game should be the focus, the football ground should be sacrosanct politics and religion should be left out imo.
Football should be a place where fans can escape from politics. I hate the way various political factions from all sides have tried to hijack our sport. The National Front tried, and failed, in the 1970s and the sectarian bigots at Celtic and Rangers can give any one a run for the money. but most football fans are decent people in my experience. There is no place for political slogans at football events as far as I am concerned.
 
Talking about the recent rise, not anti-semitism itself. It'd be tough to blame the Holocaust on conflict happening now ;)
I accept that you want to link it to recent events but it does seem that anti semitism has never gone away.

From a 'tactical' point of view these attacks are an own goal by the pro Palestine supporters. i.e Israel can say 'Just where can Jews be safe in the world except in their own country with Jewish control'?
 
Ajax, like Spurs, are known as a 'Jewish' club for various reasons. The attacks on Israelis seem to have taken place outside the stadium, apparently involving groups of Arabs.

Ironic that some of those vehemently decrying attacks on innocent Palestinians are disgustingly cheering this attack on Jews, just for being Jews, who may have all sorts of varying views on what's happening in Gaza & Lebanon. Some of you are utterly abhorrent.

If Bluemoon had been around in the 1930's, the aftermath of Kristallnacht would have been
 
Football should be a place where fans can escape from politics. I hate the way various political factions from all sides have tried to hijack our sport. The National Front tried, and failed, in the 1970s and the sectarian bigots at Celtic and Rangers can give any one a run for the money. but most football fans are decent people in my experience. There is no place for political slogans at football events as far as I am concerned.
I think most of Bluemoon think the politics threads are populated by lunatics! It's difficult to argue with that view. On your main point, I totally agree, keep politics out of sport.
 
Football until recently has always kept free of politics. The nearest it ever got was Remembrance Day. It’s a sad day for football imo. Once it starts it will escalate, the game should be the focus, the football ground should be sacrosanct politics and religion should be left out imo.
The world needs to see what's going on & if it's highlighted at a football game I give not One fuck. Nearly 20'000 Children have been blown to bits and someone's getting pissed off at a banner.
 
It's a relentless situation for them and I have sympathy.

Hamas are scum. Ordinary palestinians (i presume) are just normal folk. Albeit persecuted.

But Hamas brought this on them, although it hasn't been great for them for years they really have made it worse. I don't know what the answer is.
Just fuckin lol

"It hasn't been great for them for years"

No fuckin shit.
 

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