Middle East Conflict

Postman Pep said:
I thought that was the dark lord?

No idea now Is that the dog bothering lord or the sex pest lord who is in charge of countering "extremism" or someone else?
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He's not actually a lord. I'm talking about the non Jewish zionist who used to lobby for arms companies.
 
Don Karleone said:
I'd like to see it from his mouth. He had no problem doing it with Putin, what's the difference?
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We’ll see, mate. When they withdrew offensive weapons, Ferrari put him on the spot and asked him if he was right to do so. Starmer stated that it was an unequivocal ‘Yes’ and that Netanyahu was wrong.
 
I've seen videos of American spokespeople, Matt Miller et al, give unconvincing answers but this one here is absolutely skewered by the journalist. She has nothing at all substantive to say to oppose the issuing of the arrest warrants just giving a really flimsy response citing technicalities and jurisdiction.

 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Can we stop this, throwing them all into the same boat. Labour have called for ceasefires when nobody else did. Labour stopped supplying weapons, to huge outrage from Israel, which nobody else did. And, Labour said they will respect the ICC when they issued arrest warrants, which, as you point out above, nobody else did.

Lets deal with facts, not fiction and disinformation.
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You're gonna have to point the disinformation out to me there mate

As for labour - they called for ceasefires whilst continuing to arm israel. Calls for a ceasefire were little more than lip service and propaganda. We had Lammy tweeting how 'concerned' he was whilst continuing to crack on and arm them. It was nonsense

And Labour didn't stop supplying weapons, not to a level that was worthwhile anyway - they stopped supplying 8% of weapons and carried on with the rest! Again - propaganda

Lammy lied about the 40 beheaded babies on tv to justify the genocide (same as that soulless zionist monster rachel riley did). Starmer said israel had the right to cut Gaza's water supplies... they're both complicit in all this

Relieved (and almost surprised) to see Labour will respect the arrest warrant, albeit possibly through gritted teeth. We'll see how this pans out. These things have a tendency to be brushed under the carpet
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
You're gonna have to point the disinformation out to me there mate

As for labour - they called for ceasefires whilst continuing to arm israel. Calls for a ceasefire were little more than lip service and propaganda. We had Lammy tweeting how 'concerned' he was whilst continuing to crack on and arm them. It was nonsense

And Labour didn't stop supplying weapons, not to a level that was worthwhile anyway - they stopped supplying 8% of weapons and carried on with the rest! Again - propaganda

Lammy lied about the 40 beheaded babies on tv to justify the genocide (same as that soulless zionist monster rachel riley did). Starmer said israel had the right to cut Gaza's water supplies... they're both complicit in all this

Relieved (and almost surprised) to see Labour will respect the arrest warrant, albeit possibly through gritted teeth. We'll see how this pans out. These things have a tendency to be brushed under the carpet
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Lammy also sent a misleading tweet about the Macabi Haifa fans being attacked in Holland. The guy is a complete shithouse
 
The blue phantom said:
Lammy also sent a misleading tweet about the Macabi Haifa fans being attacked in Holland. The guy is a complete shithouse
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a little unfair - he like most western politicians are so scared of being labelled antisemitic they jump on and take the Israeli word without analysis. The Fear runs so deep it too it took the film reporting of a 14 year old Dutch kid to expose the truth in this instance. The incoming Trump Govt and Germany - yes Germany - refuse to recognise the warrants issued by the ICC with America threatening to ruin the economy of anyone who upholds them.

2024 - the year when the world lost its collective mind
 
If there was an international council in the early 1900s and every council members voted against Nazi Adolf Germany and its Nazi right to its supreme motherland, then came Fascist Mussolini Italy activating their veto card.

Rinse and repeat.

Aryan motherland.
Zion promised land.
 
cucumberman said:
If there was an international council in the early 1900s and every council members voted against Nazi Adolf Germany and its Nazi right to its supreme motherland, then came Fascist Mussolini Italy activating their veto card.

Rinse and repeat.

Aryan motherland.
Zion promised land.
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I'm not sure the comparison is helpful. Zionism is unique.

Whether it turns out to be uniquely evil is still up to Zionists. The original vision is already spoiled. Whether it could ever have been a peaceful colonisation is arguable.

www.haaretz.com

'I would like for Israelis to understand that Zionism is racism'

'Lyd,' Co-directed by Palestinian Journalist and Activist Rami Younis, Depicts What Life Might Have Been Like if There Hadn't Been a Nakba. Banned in Israel, the Film Is Drawing Crowds in North America. 'To This Day, Apart From the Arab World and a Few Bleeding-heart Left-wingers – No One...
www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
 
Vic said:
I'm not sure the comparison is helpful. Zionism is unique.

Whether it turns out to be uniquely evil is still up to Zionists. The original vision is already spoiled. Whether it could ever have been a peaceful colonisation is arguable.

www.haaretz.com

'I would like for Israelis to understand that Zionism is racism'

'Lyd,' Co-directed by Palestinian Journalist and Activist Rami Younis, Depicts What Life Might Have Been Like if There Hadn't Been a Nakba. Banned in Israel, the Film Is Drawing Crowds in North America. 'To This Day, Apart From the Arab World and a Few Bleeding-heart Left-wingers – No One...
www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
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I understand you.

I was referring to the veto card. Regardless of who the prosecutor and who the defendant, a veto card is immaterial.

Another example. Jeffrey Dahmer. Solid evidence he’s a serial killer. Consider a panel of a dozen jury for jury duty. Final verdict, 11 voted guilty, 1 voted not.
Dahmer is then released and out in the public.

That is a veto card. 1 jury veto over the decision of 11 others. At least in real world court, majority wins if not deadlocked for more consensus.
 
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