Middle East Conflict

I've posted this elsewhere before but I think it bears repeating...

I think it is bang out of order that the BBC continually refer to Hamas as "Hamas, which is regarded by the UK as a terrorist organisation". It's like every TV article they have to add that suffix.

I am not saying Hamas is NOT a terrorist organisation, but why did the BBC never feel the need to describe e.g. the IRA in such a way? Or the Taliban, or ISIS?

It seems to me that the BBC is being leaned upon by our government to try to sway public opinion in favour of Israel, irrespective of the disproportionality and potential illegality of Israel's attacks. I hope I am wrong but it certainly feels like that is the case.
 
Postman Pep said:
Trusted sources like an IDF spox and a Likud war cabinet member. Lmfao.
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It was on the fucking news - somthing to watch/listen too to understand where politicians are on this war.
It's absolutely clear that Hamas's actions against israel are the equivalent of shoving a stick in a beehive.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Ah insults.
Enjoy dancing on the eye of a needle.
the bottom line is you don't think Israel has the right to defend itself.
I think it has but it has gone to far in targeting Hamas leaders amongst Palestinian civilians.
That said, it won't stop this time till Hamas is defeated - and that is the view of the isreali Labour party as well. All mainstream political parties believe this is a war of survival. Are they right? The balance of probabilities probably says yes they are.
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I’m not insulting you, I’m genuinely concerned about the clear signs of cognitive dissonance and sociopathic traits that you’ve shown throughout this thread.

There’s a big difference between Israel defending itself and committing outright genocide. Even in the unlikely event Israel get rid of Hamas, the atrocities they’ve committed while doing so will not be forgotten and the next iteration will be far worse. You’re just too blinkered to see that living under occupation, being dehumanised on a daily basis, and seeing your loved ones slaughtered would cause mental illness and violence in anyone. Yet you only focus only on the violent outcomes from these people. If you look at any historically oppressed peoples they'll have violently lashed out at some point.

If you can say you’d never resort to extreme violence after having your home destroyed, your entire family wiped out then you’re a fool or a liar. It's enough to cause anyone serious psychological issues. Does it excuse Hamas killing innocents, hell no, but context is critical.

Regarding the political parties in this country, these are the same mainstream parties that sanctioned the war in Iraq under false pretences, and countless other scandals… yeah real bastions of morality them!

Like me and many others have stated little Rishi and Co. have blood on their hands and fully complicit in the Israeli war crimes we see unfolding. Their moral compass is broken and so is anyone else’s that excuses the collective punishment we’re witnessing.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I've posted this elsewhere before but I think it bears repeating...

I think it is bang out of order that the BBC continually refer to Hamas as "Hamas, which is regarded by the UK as a terrorist organisation". It's like every TV article they have to add that suffix.

I am not saying Hamas is NOT a terrorist organisation, but why did the BBC never feel the need to describe e.g. the IRA in such a way? Or the Taliban, or ISIS?

It seems to me that the BBC is being leaned upon by our government to try to sway public opinion in favour of Israel, irrespective of the disproportionality and potential illegality of Israel's attacks. I hope I am wrong but it certainly feels like that is the case.
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Wasn’t Osama Bin Laden hiding in Pakistan and wasn’t he funded by Saudi’s? Hell! Qatar is sheltering Hamas leaders and the West gave them a World Cup!

The media have and are turning themselves into knots to make this a black/white issue and fortunately many people are rightfully raising their eyebrows…

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BayernMan said:
Wasn’t Osama Bin Laden hiding in Pakistan and wasn’t he funded by Saudi’s? Hell! Qatar is shelling Hamas leaders and the West gave them a World Cup!

The media have and are turning themselves into knots to make this a black/white issue and fortunately many people are rightfully raising their eyebrows…
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And you can add the government into that mix. How on earth is a peaceful march, urging for a ceasefire, "disrepectful"??? to those commemorating Armistice Day?

Armistice was after all, an agreement to end the fighting of the First World War as a prelude to peace negotiations.

I would have thought a peace march was HIGHLY appropriate, not something to be the subject of scorn by Sunak and Braverman.

IMO this whole situation is so politically corrupt, it absolutely stinks.
 
Chippy_boy said:
And you can add the government into that mix. How on earth is a peaceful march, urging for a ceasefire, "disrepectful"??? to those commemorating Armistice Day?

Armistice was after all, an agreement to end the fighting of the First World War as a prelude to peace negotiations.

I would have thought a peace march was HIGHLY appropriate, not something to be the subject of scorn by Sunak and Braverman.

IMO this whole situation is so politically corrupt, it absolutely stinks.
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It stinks alright.
 
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