Middle East Conflict

[cucumberman]

Israel now has bombed and will continue to bomb the two capital cities of Lebanon and Iran.

It’s utterly obvious that the IDF is enticing the participation of British and American troops as foil. The escalation to de-escalation strategy.

I’d rather us not be involved and save a single soldier’s life whose duty is to protect a country that is not our own (Israel).

The IDF is most immoral that even hundreds of Jew reservists who have completed their stint in the Gazan conflict have turned against the IDF and exposed the blatant international war crimes as instructed by their higher ranks and commanders.

At the same time a list of 1000 IDF soldiers have been exposed based on evidence of hate crimes / war crimes, that dozens of reservists returning back to their respective home countries have been on legal trials by order of their respective governances.

The tables are turning from within.

 

[The blue phantom]

The only time I'd like our soldiers to go over there would be to protect the folk who are getting slaughtered. But in this fucked up conflict we've already helped out the country committing the Genocide.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The only time I'd like our soldiers to go over there would be to protect the folk who are getting slaughtered. But in this fucked up conflict we've already helped out the country committing the Genocide.

It's such a perverse situation. When Serbia went to war with Kosovo, Nato bombed Belgrade. Intervention should have come earlier to prevent the slaughter of Bosnians and numerous other atrocities. But there was eventually an Intervention.

The fighter jets on that American carrier in the Levantine Sea should have been scrambled against military targets in Tel Aviv. And other military assets used to secure Israeli nuclear weapon infrastructure to prevent the Samson Option being initiated.

 

[halfcenturyup]

And this is ultimately the problem of the arguments against Israel. We can recognise the faults of Israel but we can't not recognise the reality that Israel is an internationally recognised country and will remain so.

Resistance against Israel because of its actions and treatment of Palestinians is understandable but either way the cause of the Palestinians isn't helped by that resistance. For there to be peace the Palestinians need a vocal authority that knows more than bullets as Israel will just use resistance violence as a free pass to do whatever it wants.

The IRA ultimately was never going to be able to achieve its aims but still NI/Ireland did not see progress towards the peace until the IRA agreed to lay down its arms.

Why did the IRA decide to lay down arms?

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

January 1, 2025 seems like a nice date for the start of WW 3. No better way to start the new year

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Israel hitting back at Iran.
Targets in at least two Cities (Tehran and Karaj) from 00:30 UK time.

"Israel hitting back at Iran"

LOL. If you don't laugh at this nonsense you'd cry...

What actually happened. Here's the timeline:

April 2024: Israel bombs Iranian embassy in Syria, assassinating 2 top Iranian commanders. Iran promises a response ("hitting back") - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/attack-on-iran-consulate-in-damascus-what-do-we-know

Our prime minister didn't address our nation over this

October 1st - Iran responds ('hits back') to Israel's aggression, hitting military targets. Kier starmer jumps up and tells us he "utterly condemns this attempt by the Iranian regime to hurt innocent Israeli's" and that "we stand with Israel, and recognise her right to self defence" (bit weird he refers to israel as 'her', but that's western propaganda for you folks!).

Yesterday - Israel attacks Iran again. Our prime minister addresses the nation - "Israel has the right to defend itself against Iranian aggression. Iran should not respond"

Iran now has the right to defend herself, by starmer's own logic. The framing of last nights attacks by our media and our own prime minister is incorrect

Thankfully, Iran seems capable of more self control than israel, who continue their ethnic cleansing and genocide on multiple fronts, murdering hundreds of civilians/children again this week. And the israeli attacks this time seem pretty feeble, so hopefully this is the last of the aggression from israel on this front for the time being. Israel can focus on wiping out the innocent civilians in northern gaza for now, and planning the settlements they're going to build on the land once they've murdered everyone.

 

[Phil1]

Israel sound like right cunts atm.
I accept it’s a bit more nuanced than that but they really aren’t helping to convince anyone they are defending their rights atm.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Enjoy the game today guys. Israel murdered another footballer yesterday, they have now murdered 300 palestinian footballers since October 7th, and around 500 palestinian athletes in total

Dead bodies in the rubble: Gaza's lost generation of footballers

Hundreds of players have died and scores of stadiums destroyed in Israel's attacks. 'It’s heartbreaking. Unthinkable. Unspeakable'

inews.co.uk

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Enjoy the game today guys. Israel murdered another footballer yesterday, they have now murdered 300 palestinian footballers since October 7th, and around 500 palestinian athletes in total

Are you here today Alex? Because our club is owned by a member of a government that slaughtered thousands of men, women and children in Yemen.

Do you get as worked up about that?

 

[Irwell]

I see the shill is back trying to justify genocide again. Whataboutism is the tactic this time is it?