Hitting mosques however is fine, she added.
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Hitting mosques however is fine, she added.
British surgeon in Gaza on Radio 4 saying the wounds of minors trying to collect food (mostly teenage boys trying to get food for starving families) show a pattern - head and neck one day, then abdomen, then limbs, and one day with four shot in the testicles. Baby food formula being confiscated at the border. Medical colleagues who've lost 20kg and more in weight. Patients whose malnutrition means they can't recover from operations on wounds.
IDF says none of this is happening
IDF says none of this is happening
It’s the Trump policy. If the gov do something that most people abhor, it is FAKE NEWS.
Yes, the Epstein files exist, says Trump, but they are Fake, written by Obama, Clinton and Biden.
Yes, there are videos of children being shot at food dumps, but they are fake. Remember those ambulance crew killed and buried by the Israelis. First, it didn’t happen they said (yes it did) …then it was the fault of the ambulance drivers who switched their lights off (no they didn’t)…..then, it was a mistake, but the video showed the shooters at close range.
Give me strength.
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The Fat el Hombre
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Time for Israel to investigate themselves again!
Just another 1.5 or so million Palestinians left for Israel to bomb/shoot/starve/rape to death until Michael rapaport and his pals can get their strip clubs and casinos by the sea:
These people are just disgusting. Who the fuck is Rapaport? Let’s bulldoze his house and build a strip club there.
Antisemitism is the BBC's fault for reporting war crimes... I don't even understand his last point (a "misspeak"?)
Lord Austin of Dudley in House of Lords yesterday:
My Lords, I am afraid that, contrary to what the Minister said, as the shocking increase in antisemitism shows, there is, sadly, obviously a place in Britain for antisemitism. That is what is happening. I am afraid that one of the main causes is the BBC. If you suggest, as it does, with its disproportionate, unbalanced and biased coverage, that Israel is committing uniquely evil crimes, that is obviously going to drive hostility towards people in the UK who identify with Israel, which is the vast majority of the Jewish community. This is why the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport was completely right to demand changes at the top. Is it not a disgrace that, only yesterday, the BBC’s head of current affairs, Deborah Turness, suggested that there was no difference between Hamas’s Ministers and its military wing? I have to ask the Minister: when are the Government finally going to get a grip?
Lord Austin of Dudley in House of Lords yesterday:
My Lords, I am afraid that, contrary to what the Minister said, as the shocking increase in antisemitism shows, there is, sadly, obviously a place in Britain for antisemitism. That is what is happening. I am afraid that one of the main causes is the BBC. If you suggest, as it does, with its disproportionate, unbalanced and biased coverage, that Israel is committing uniquely evil crimes, that is obviously going to drive hostility towards people in the UK who identify with Israel, which is the vast majority of the Jewish community. This is why the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport was completely right to demand changes at the top. Is it not a disgrace that, only yesterday, the BBC’s head of current affairs, Deborah Turness, suggested that there was no difference between Hamas’s Ministers and its military wing? I have to ask the Minister: when are the Government finally going to get a grip?
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Israel levelling thousands of Gaza civilian buildings in controlled demolitions - BBC News
Investigation by BBC Verify using satellite images and verified footage to show the extent of destruction in Gaza, where the Israeli military have carried out demolitions to raze entire towns and suburbs
This terror infrastructure Hamas built must be up there with the great feats of engineering like the great wall of China and the pyramids of giza
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bluethrunthru
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soul less ghouls
The Fat el Hombre
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A failed actor so just gobs off for Israel now I think. He was on friends at one point! He will be able to spout vile bullshit like that and will continue to be platformed
This guy is an interesting account to follow. He is a jewish Israeli and was a zionist (think he was one of the scumbags saying that the images of dead Palestinian children was AI in the early days of the genocide). After a year or so of the genocide he realized it was wrong and has changed his stance, he's now getting death threats:
Francesca Albanese stood up to the empire when they sanctioned her, and seems aware that she might be murdered for it. After almost 2 years of genocide for people who are refusing to be intimidated by the israel lobby we appear to be at the stage where people are putting their freedom on the line (see support for palestine action after the farcical desicion to proscribed them as a terrorist organisation) or their lives on the line (see above and below)
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Some of the before and after images in that are insaneIsrael levelling thousands of Gaza civilian buildings in controlled demolitions - BBC News
Investigation by BBC Verify using satellite images and verified footage to show the extent of destruction in Gaza, where the Israeli military have carried out demolitions to raze entire towns and suburbswww.bbc.co.uk
This terror infrastructure Hamas built must be up there with the great feats of engenering like the great wall of China and the pyramids of giza
No idea how anyone thinks that Palestinians will be allowed to return to having a country if Hamas are destroyed. It's ethnic cleansing and a land-grab
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“Underground tunnels” any chance of seeing a map we are led to believe the Palestinians have been digging away for years yet no more Israeli hostages have been released buried alive underneath the rubble. The Israel state was created in the image of a western society and filled with a western population, who set about imposing their values on Palestinians. After all this time we still want to impress our way of life on other populations, we know best attitudes we have right on our side it’s sickeningIsrael levelling thousands of Gaza civilian buildings in controlled demolitions - BBC News
Investigation by BBC Verify using satellite images and verified footage to show the extent of destruction in Gaza, where the Israeli military have carried out demolitions to raze entire towns and suburbs
This terror infrastructure Hamas built must be up there with the great feats of engenering like the great wall of China and the pyramids of giza
HelloCity
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Israel levelling thousands of Gaza civilian buildings in controlled demolitions - BBC News
Investigation by BBC Verify using satellite images and verified footage to show the extent of destruction in Gaza, where the Israeli military have carried out demolitions to raze entire towns and suburbs
This terror infrastructure Hamas built must be up there with the great feats of engenering like the great wall of China and the pyramids of giza
War criminals.
inchy14
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Said it from the off but had the usual suspects saying it wasn’t and was only about destroying Hamas… said they were delusional from the start and looks like I was correct.
The Fat el Hombre
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Do we think this will get the hostages back?
"Palestinian media outlets report that settlers arrived last night at the village of Al-Malih, a Bedouin community in the northern Jordan Valley, and killed 117 heads of livestock belonging to the residents.
Al-Araby TV also reports that an additional 400 heads of livestock were stolen.
The police have yet to issue a response.
The army did not respond to a request for comment.
Veterinarians were called in to treat a handful of sheep that had survived the knife and gun attack, some of the animals shaking uncontrollably and in apparent shock."
"Palestinian media outlets report that settlers arrived last night at the village of Al-Malih, a Bedouin community in the northern Jordan Valley, and killed 117 heads of livestock belonging to the residents.
Al-Araby TV also reports that an additional 400 heads of livestock were stolen.
The police have yet to issue a response.
The army did not respond to a request for comment.
Veterinarians were called in to treat a handful of sheep that had survived the knife and gun attack, some of the animals shaking uncontrollably and in apparent shock."
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I'm hoping that these British Idf soldiers are either refused entry back in the UK or arrested and charged with Mass Murder. Every last one of them.
This should be amplified more. He went on to make the point that the pattern of injury by FPV drones and snipers suggests it had become a game for the operators and soldiers.
‘Ok lads today there’s extra points for shooting little boys in the bollocks…”
This only happens when your targets have been dehumanised and othered. This is a racist genocide by a racist state.
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Took a bit of light reading on holiday. A book I haven't read in over twenty years, the majority of which was written in 1983. Two pages in and still on the runway I'm in familiar territory.
1. Fanning the Flames
In the war of words that has been waged since Israel invaded Lebanon on June 6, 1982, critics of Israeli actions have frequently been accused of hypocrisy. 1 While the reasons advanced are spurious,* the charge itself has some merit. It is surely hypocritical to condemn Israel for establishing settlements in the occupied territories while we pay for establishing and expanding them. Or to condemn Israel for attacking civilian targets with cluster and phosphorus bombs "to get the maximum kills per hit", when we provide them gratis or at bargain rates, knowing that they will be used for just this purpose. Or to criticize Israel's "indiscriminate" bombardment of heavily-settled civilian areas or its other military adventures while we not only provide the means in abundance but welcome Israel's assistance in testing the latest weaponry under live battlefield conditions - to be sure, against a vastly outmatched enemy, including completely undefended targets, always the safest way to carry out experiments of this sort. In general, it is pure hypocrisy to criticize the exercise of Israeli power while welcoming Israel's contributions towards realizing the U.S. aim of eliminating possible threats, largely indigenous, to American domination of the Middle East region.
That said it was the accompanying note to the spurious reasons that struck me. Substitute Hamas for PLO for the same playbook.
‘Through the summer of 1982, the media were flooded with letters of a strikingly similar format, typically asking of critics: Where were you when...?,” where the gap is filled by the writer’s favorite Palestinian atrocity, often invented. Another typical format was the accusation that it is hypocritical to criticize Israeli atrocities unless one goes on to condemn the Russians in Afghanistan, the Syrians for the terrible massacre in Hama, etc. No similar requirements were imposed when the PLO was bitterly condemned for terrorist atrocities. In fact, it has been a common pretense that the media and others had not condemned PLO atrocities or even that the media have been “pro-PLO" (e.g. , Leon Wieseltier: “There is a scandal, and it is the moral and political prestige of the PLO [in media] coverage of the Middle East”). Entering still further into the world of fantasy, we even find the charge (Robert Tucker) that “numerous public figures in the West, even a number of Western governments” (all unnamed) have “encouraged the PLO in its maximalist course" of “winnertake-all,” i.e., destruction of Israel. When the intellectual history of this period is someday written, it will scarcely be believable.
I suppose the point here is that it has never been written which goes a long way to explaining why we are where we are, i.e this from 1956 that sounds like a report from 2025.
The Israeli occupying army carried out bloody atrocities in the Gaza Strip, killing “at least 275 Palestinians immediately after capturing the Strip during a brutal house-to-house search for weapons and fedayeen in Khan Yunis" and killing 111 Palestinians in “another massive bloodletting” at the Rafah refugee camp in “disorders" after “Israeli troops stormed through the hovels, rounding up refugees for intelligence screenings." General E. L. M. Burns, Commander of the UN Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO), commented that this furnished “very sad proof of the fact that the spirit that inspired the notorious Deir Yassin massacre of 1948 is not dead among some of the Israeli armed forces." The head of the Gaza observer force, Lt.-Col. R. F. Bayard of the U.S. Army, reported that treatment of civilians was “unwarrantedly rough” and that “a good number of persons have been shot down in cold blood for no apparent reason." Fie also reported that many UN relief officials were missing and presumed executed by the Israelis and that there had been extensive looting and wanton destruction of property.
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1. Fanning the Flames
In the war of words that has been waged since Israel invaded Lebanon on June 6, 1982, critics of Israeli actions have frequently been accused of hypocrisy. 1 While the reasons advanced are spurious,* the charge itself has some merit. It is surely hypocritical to condemn Israel for establishing settlements in the occupied territories while we pay for establishing and expanding them. Or to condemn Israel for attacking civilian targets with cluster and phosphorus bombs "to get the maximum kills per hit", when we provide them gratis or at bargain rates, knowing that they will be used for just this purpose. Or to criticize Israel's "indiscriminate" bombardment of heavily-settled civilian areas or its other military adventures while we not only provide the means in abundance but welcome Israel's assistance in testing the latest weaponry under live battlefield conditions - to be sure, against a vastly outmatched enemy, including completely undefended targets, always the safest way to carry out experiments of this sort. In general, it is pure hypocrisy to criticize the exercise of Israeli power while welcoming Israel's contributions towards realizing the U.S. aim of eliminating possible threats, largely indigenous, to American domination of the Middle East region.
That said it was the accompanying note to the spurious reasons that struck me. Substitute Hamas for PLO for the same playbook.
‘Through the summer of 1982, the media were flooded with letters of a strikingly similar format, typically asking of critics: Where were you when...?,” where the gap is filled by the writer’s favorite Palestinian atrocity, often invented. Another typical format was the accusation that it is hypocritical to criticize Israeli atrocities unless one goes on to condemn the Russians in Afghanistan, the Syrians for the terrible massacre in Hama, etc. No similar requirements were imposed when the PLO was bitterly condemned for terrorist atrocities. In fact, it has been a common pretense that the media and others had not condemned PLO atrocities or even that the media have been “pro-PLO" (e.g. , Leon Wieseltier: “There is a scandal, and it is the moral and political prestige of the PLO [in media] coverage of the Middle East”). Entering still further into the world of fantasy, we even find the charge (Robert Tucker) that “numerous public figures in the West, even a number of Western governments” (all unnamed) have “encouraged the PLO in its maximalist course" of “winnertake-all,” i.e., destruction of Israel. When the intellectual history of this period is someday written, it will scarcely be believable.
I suppose the point here is that it has never been written which goes a long way to explaining why we are where we are, i.e this from 1956 that sounds like a report from 2025.
The Israeli occupying army carried out bloody atrocities in the Gaza Strip, killing “at least 275 Palestinians immediately after capturing the Strip during a brutal house-to-house search for weapons and fedayeen in Khan Yunis" and killing 111 Palestinians in “another massive bloodletting” at the Rafah refugee camp in “disorders" after “Israeli troops stormed through the hovels, rounding up refugees for intelligence screenings." General E. L. M. Burns, Commander of the UN Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO), commented that this furnished “very sad proof of the fact that the spirit that inspired the notorious Deir Yassin massacre of 1948 is not dead among some of the Israeli armed forces." The head of the Gaza observer force, Lt.-Col. R. F. Bayard of the U.S. Army, reported that treatment of civilians was “unwarrantedly rough” and that “a good number of persons have been shot down in cold blood for no apparent reason." Fie also reported that many UN relief officials were missing and presumed executed by the Israelis and that there had been extensive looting and wanton destruction of property.
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Fateful Triangle : The United States, Israel, and the Palestinians : Noam Chomsky : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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