Middle East Conflict

Took a bit of light reading on holiday. A book I haven't read in over twenty years, the majority of which was written in 1983. Two pages in and still on the runway I'm in familiar territory.


1. Fanning the Flames

In the war of words that has been waged since Israel invaded Lebanon on June 6, 1982, critics of Israeli actions have frequently been accused of hypocrisy. 1 While the reasons advanced are spurious,* the charge itself has some merit. It is surely hypocritical to condemn Israel for establishing settlements in the occupied territories while we pay for establishing and expanding them. Or to condemn Israel for attacking civilian targets with cluster and phosphorus bombs "to get the maximum kills per hit", when we provide them gratis or at bargain rates, knowing that they will be used for just this purpose. Or to criticize Israel's "indiscriminate" bombardment of heavily-settled civilian areas or its other military adventures while we not only provide the means in abundance but welcome Israel's assistance in testing the latest weaponry under live battlefield conditions - to be sure, against a vastly outmatched enemy, including completely undefended targets, always the safest way to carry out experiments of this sort. In general, it is pure hypocrisy to criticize the exercise of Israeli power while welcoming Israel's contributions towards realizing the U.S. aim of eliminating possible threats, largely indigenous, to American domination of the Middle East region.


That said it was the accompanying note to the spurious reasons that struck me. Substitute Hamas for PLO for the same playbook.

‘Through the summer of 1982, the media were flooded with letters of a strikingly similar format, typically asking of critics: Where were you when...?,” where the gap is filled by the writer’s favorite Palestinian atrocity, often invented. Another typical format was the accusation that it is hypocritical to criticize Israeli atrocities unless one goes on to condemn the Russians in Afghanistan, the Syrians for the terrible massacre in Hama, etc. No similar requirements were imposed when the PLO was bitterly condemned for terrorist atrocities. In fact, it has been a common pretense that the media and others had not condemned PLO atrocities or even that the media have been “pro-PLO" (e.g. , Leon Wieseltier: “There is a scandal, and it is the moral and political prestige of the PLO [in media] coverage of the Middle East”). Entering still further into the world of fantasy, we even find the charge (Robert Tucker) that “numerous public figures in the West, even a number of Western governments” (all unnamed) have “encouraged the PLO in its maximalist course" of “winnertake-all,” i.e., destruction of Israel. When the intellectual history of this period is someday written, it will scarcely be believable.

I suppose the point here is that it has never been written which goes a long way to explaining why we are where we are, i.e this from 1956 that sounds like a report from 2025.


The Israeli occupying army carried out bloody atrocities in the Gaza Strip, killing “at least 275 Palestinians immediately after capturing the Strip during a brutal house-to-house search for weapons and fedayeen in Khan Yunis" and killing 111 Palestinians in “another massive bloodletting” at the Rafah refugee camp in “disorders" after “Israeli troops stormed through the hovels, rounding up refugees for intelligence screenings." General E. L. M. Burns, Commander of the UN Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO), commented that this furnished “very sad proof of the fact that the spirit that inspired the notorious Deir Yassin massacre of 1948 is not dead among some of the Israeli armed forces." The head of the Gaza observer force, Lt.-Col. R. F. Bayard of the U.S. Army, reported that treatment of civilians was “unwarrantedly rough” and that “a good number of persons have been shot down in cold blood for no apparent reason." Fie also reported that many UN relief officials were missing and presumed executed by the Israelis and that there had been extensive looting and wanton destruction of property.


Lifted the text from here ...

Lifted from which page?

It makes nonsense of the idea that October 7th was the "start" of something.
 
Lifted from which page?
35 and 194
It makes nonsense of the idea that October 7th was the "start" of something.

Yep. The chapter on "rejectionism" (page 96 onwards) is worth a read. Makes a mockery of the lazy assumption that it is just "this current government" , or a Netanyahu or even a Likud position and that there is a moderate alternative waiting in the wings.


The doctrine of self-styled “supporters of Israel," which has largely dominated discussion here, holds that the PLO and the Arab states have been undeviatingly rejectionist (apart from Egypt since 1977), while the U.S. and Israel have sought a peaceful settlement that will recognize the valid claims of all. A more recent version is that the “beautiful Israel” of earlier years, which was realizing the dream of democratic socialism and becoming “a light unto the nations,” has been betrayed by Begin and his cohorts, a consequence of the refusal of the Arabs to accept the existence of Israel and the unwavering commitment of the PLO — a collection of thugs and gangsters — to the destruction of Israel, the murder of innocents, and the intimidation of all “moderate” opinion in
the occupied territories. 1 Like virtually all propaganda systems, this one contains elements of truth. But the real world is rather different, as will quickly be discovered if the historical record is rescued from the oblivion to which it has been consigned
 
35 and 194


Yep. The chapter on "rejectionism" (page 96 onwards) is worth a read. Makes a mockery of the lazy assumption that it is just "this current government" , or a Netanyahu or even a Likud position and that there is a moderate alternative waiting in the wings.


The doctrine of self-styled “supporters of Israel," which has largely dominated discussion here, holds that the PLO and the Arab states have been undeviatingly rejectionist (apart from Egypt since 1977), while the U.S. and Israel have sought a peaceful settlement that will recognize the valid claims of all. A more recent version is that the “beautiful Israel” of earlier years, which was realizing the dream of democratic socialism and becoming “a light unto the nations,” has been betrayed by Begin and his cohorts, a consequence of the refusal of the Arabs to accept the existence of Israel and the unwavering commitment of the PLO — a collection of thugs and gangsters — to the destruction of Israel, the murder of innocents, and the intimidation of all “moderate” opinion in
the occupied territories. 1 Like virtually all propaganda systems, this one contains elements of truth. But the real world is rather different, as will quickly be discovered if the historical record is rescued from the oblivion to which it has been consigned
Thanks. I don't think I'll manage all 937 pages (too depressing) but did note the bit on page 195 about how the IDF behaves like any occupying army but uniquely has the backing of American intellectuals repeating the guff about "purity of arms" (aka "the most moral army in the world").
 
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This terror infrastructure Hamas built must be up there with the great feats of engineering like the great wall of China and the pyramids of giza
They disguised the terrorists as doctors, nurses, rescuers, teachers and so on. They must all be wiped out.
 
RAF flying over Syria this week. Not looking for hostages there, are we?
No we are pretending to stamp out terrorism by spying on Middle Eastern countries the hostages are long forgotten now.
Nothing the general public are saying is making the slightest bit of difference to the moneymen financing the war in Gaza, the US and UK are complicit with Israel.
 
Took a bit of light reading on holiday. A book I haven't read in over twenty years, the majority of which was written in 1983. Two pages in and still on the runway I'm in familiar territory.


1. Fanning the Flames

In the war of words that has been waged since Israel invaded Lebanon on June 6, 1982, critics of Israeli actions have frequently been accused of hypocrisy. 1 While the reasons advanced are spurious,* the charge itself has some merit. It is surely hypocritical to condemn Israel for establishing settlements in the occupied territories while we pay for establishing and expanding them. Or to condemn Israel for attacking civilian targets with cluster and phosphorus bombs "to get the maximum kills per hit", when we provide them gratis or at bargain rates, knowing that they will be used for just this purpose. Or to criticize Israel's "indiscriminate" bombardment of heavily-settled civilian areas or its other military adventures while we not only provide the means in abundance but welcome Israel's assistance in testing the latest weaponry under live battlefield conditions - to be sure, against a vastly outmatched enemy, including completely undefended targets, always the safest way to carry out experiments of this sort. In general, it is pure hypocrisy to criticize the exercise of Israeli power while welcoming Israel's contributions towards realizing the U.S. aim of eliminating possible threats, largely indigenous, to American domination of the Middle East region.


That said it was the accompanying note to the spurious reasons that struck me. Substitute Hamas for PLO for the same playbook.

‘Through the summer of 1982, the media were flooded with letters of a strikingly similar format, typically asking of critics: Where were you when...?,” where the gap is filled by the writer’s favorite Palestinian atrocity, often invented. Another typical format was the accusation that it is hypocritical to criticize Israeli atrocities unless one goes on to condemn the Russians in Afghanistan, the Syrians for the terrible massacre in Hama, etc. No similar requirements were imposed when the PLO was bitterly condemned for terrorist atrocities. In fact, it has been a common pretense that the media and others had not condemned PLO atrocities or even that the media have been “pro-PLO" (e.g. , Leon Wieseltier: “There is a scandal, and it is the moral and political prestige of the PLO [in media] coverage of the Middle East”). Entering still further into the world of fantasy, we even find the charge (Robert Tucker) that “numerous public figures in the West, even a number of Western governments” (all unnamed) have “encouraged the PLO in its maximalist course" of “winnertake-all,” i.e., destruction of Israel. When the intellectual history of this period is someday written, it will scarcely be believable.

I suppose the point here is that it has never been written which goes a long way to explaining why we are where we are, i.e this from 1956 that sounds like a report from 2025.


The Israeli occupying army carried out bloody atrocities in the Gaza Strip, killing “at least 275 Palestinians immediately after capturing the Strip during a brutal house-to-house search for weapons and fedayeen in Khan Yunis" and killing 111 Palestinians in “another massive bloodletting” at the Rafah refugee camp in “disorders" after “Israeli troops stormed through the hovels, rounding up refugees for intelligence screenings." General E. L. M. Burns, Commander of the UN Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO), commented that this furnished “very sad proof of the fact that the spirit that inspired the notorious Deir Yassin massacre of 1948 is not dead among some of the Israeli armed forces." The head of the Gaza observer force, Lt.-Col. R. F. Bayard of the U.S. Army, reported that treatment of civilians was “unwarrantedly rough” and that “a good number of persons have been shot down in cold blood for no apparent reason." Fie also reported that many UN relief officials were missing and presumed executed by the Israelis and that there had been extensive looting and wanton destruction of property.


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Rafah refugee camp, exactly where Israel wants to herd/forcibly move two million Palestinians
 
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I'm hoping that these British Idf soldiers are either refused entry back in the UK or arrested and charged with Mass Murder. Every last one of them.

There are thought to be at least 90 British people who have volunteered for the IDF, given the range of grave criminal acts and international crimes that are committed in Israel/Palestine by the IOF, it is possible that these Britons could be actively involved in war crimes.

From the BBC one hour ago “The Israeli military has issued evacuation orders for a crowded part of central Gaza where it has not launched a ground offensive during its 21 months of war against Hamas.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on Sunday that residents and displaced Palestinians sheltering in the city of Deir al-Balah should evacuate immediately and move towards al-Mawasi on the Mediterranean coast.

The evacuation demand, which could signal an imminent attack, has caused widespread panic among tens of thousands of Palestinians, as well as the families of Israeli hostages who fear their relatives are being held in the city”

Israel is about to launch a ground offensive I think? and the people are ordered to leave their homes AGAIN and go to who knows where no media are officially reporting the news or allowed in Gaza, maybe this is a final push to locate hostages.

The difference volunteering to defend in Ukraine = heroes and attacking in Gaza = criminals.
 
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Another 32 reportedly murdered today for bring hungry and seeking food. But the killings aren’t indiscriminate.

At least 32 Palestinians seeking food have been killed by Israeli gunfire near two aid distribution points close to Khan Younis and Rafah in southern Gaza, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.

Terrorists doing terrorist things...
 
Over 80 massacred again waiting for food. Target practice from the Murderers Idf.

Thousands dropping like flies due to Malnutrition also.
 

“On 4 June, Jeremy Corbyn MP introduced a bill into the UK House of Commons calling on the government to establish an independent inquiry into UK involvement in Israeli military operations in Gaza, including the supply of weapons, surveillance aircraft and use of Royal Air Force bases.

At the second reading on 4 July, the government rejected this bill and refused to establish such an inquiry. The public deserves to know the full scale of their government’s complicity in genocide. That is why we are holding The Gaza Tribunal. We will uncover the truth - and we will bring about justice for the Palestinian people.

This unprecedented event will examine Britain’s role in war crimes perpetrated in Gaza and establish the full scale of our government’s complicity in the genocide against the Palestinian people”
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July the 4th was the second reading of the Gaza bill that Jeremy Corbyn called for an investigation in to the government. It was rejected now they are holding the Gaza tribunal September 12th
I don’t know if this young lady has been brought home she is a British citizen?
 
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That's what's happening with the full support of our Governments in the West.


When it's over, do not let people say they had no idea.
 

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