Might as well give up now?

[allan harper]

How does a small club like QPR with big ambitions and owners who are/maybe willing to invest money in the club gonna be able to compete under these rules.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

just read the men article on this says we will be fine.

That's not what I thought when I read it

oh well we`d probable get beat by Fenerbace in the preliminaries anyway

lets concentrate on winning the league every year it would render the chumps

cup meaningless

You really think that the majority of our players will want to stick at a club where there is no hope of ever playing in Europe?

 

[Deleted member 14625]

How does a small club like QPR with big ambitions and owners who are/maybe willing to invest money in the club gonna be able to compete under these rules.

It's absolutely disgraceful isn't it?! Football has phases where certain clubs reign over all. Football has started to move on again in the last 8 years, starting with Chelsea and QPR and City. These three clubs are only doing exactly what United did in the late 80's and early 90's, what Everton did in the 80's, Liverpool in the 70's, and so on and so on........

The Sky 4 haven't always been the top clubs, they spent money to bridge a gap and became successful and thus their support grew and only then did they become giants of clubs (or in Arsenals case, were disgracefully given a place - or in other words, they bought their place - in the top league at the expense of Spurs after finishing FIFTH in Div2!). The didn't just form in 1890(or whenever) and automatically become the best clubs in the country.

Now the time has come that United, Liverpool and the like have run their course and just like Villa and Preston were once the most successful clubs, it's time for the to step aside for the next lot.

But no!... FIFA, UEFA, and probably backed by the Premier League and the FA by all this, will not have that. They obviusly do not understand that a new shift is ready to start. They just think that the clubs who've had a good 40-50 years at it deserve to be there forever. It's not on!

 

[The Fixer]

Taken from muen

10-point City plan
October 08, 2010
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1 Keep wages under control by developing youth and selling unwanted high earners

2 Keep amortisation – the way a player’s value is calculated over the duration of his contract – down by selling unwanted high earners

3 Increase Premier League income by finishing higher and claiming more TV money

4 Reach Champions League, bringing gate receipts, TV money and sponsors’ cash

5 Continue steep upward trend in commercial revenue, e.g. shirt deals

6 Pay off the club’s £75m debt early, to get rid of interest payments

7 Allow up to £170m cash to sit in the club bank accounts, generating interest

8 Increased stadium capacity, on top of recent lease renegotiation, to allow bigger gate receipts

9 Sell stadium naming rights

10 £1bn development of Sportcity area to be an income earner

I made a new thread with the above and zin just posted number 11..... the biggest shirt sponship deal in history :O)

 

[DaveH]

It's absolutely disgraceful isn't it?! Football has phases where certain clubs reign over all. Football has started to move on again in the last 8 years, starting with Chelsea and QPR and City. These three clubs are only doing exactly what United did in the late 80's and early 90's, what Everton did in the 80's, Liverpool in the 70's, and so on and so on........

The Sky 4 haven't always been the top clubs, they spent money to bridge a gap and became successful and thus their support grew and only then did they become giants of clubs (or in Arsenals case, were disgracefully given a place - or in other words, they bought their place - in the top league at the expense of Spurs after finishing FIFTH in Div2!). The didn't just form in 1890(or whenever) and automatically become the best clubs in the country.

Now the time has come that United, Liverpool and the like have run their course and just like Villa and Preston were once the most successful clubs, it's time for the to step aside for the next lot.

But no!... FIFA, UEFA, and probably backed by the Premier League and the FA by all this, will not have that. They obviusly do not understand that a new shift is ready to start. They just think that the clubs who've had a good 40-50 years at it deserve to be there forever. It's not on!

This is it in a Nutshell mate.

But i'm sure Legal people will be looking at ALL the big clubs in europe Barca included.

 

[abu13]

How will Real Madrid get away with it, the bank just give them money intrest free. Even the goverment chip in.

this is going to be the interesting one, Jose likes to splash the cash and they are proberbly the nearest club to us with regard to wages and spending power.

the big difference being our money comes from an owner where thiers comes from outside sources ( some very dodgy deals as well )

there is not a cat in hells chance that they UEFA will try to turn over Madrid.

 

[King Geedorah]

can we sell rsc to the sheiks other football club for £300m ? ;)

the one he owns in abu dhabi

This is where the rules get a bit grey for me.

Say we told some random youth player he'd be given £10,000 a week to go live in Dubai and a club bought him for £20 million. UEFA would undoubtedly question the value, as no other club would pay it. But then we can surely question the value of the £17 million we paid to RSC, £26 million to Milner and some of the wages we pay. Undoubtedly no-one else would pay the prices.

Possible line of assault? I doubt it but it's certainly interesting (To me atleast).

 

[City Raider]

hopefully we've got this covered, but its going to be nigh on impossible for our story to happen anywhere else - this is going to be a closed shop, we've got our foot in the door and they're trying to slam it

 

[Clevers]

How does a small club like QPR with big ambitions and owners who are/maybe willing to invest money in the club gonna be able to compete under these rules.

Agreed. Surely these rules, whilst professing otherwise, are actually anti-competitive and must fall foul of UK/EU trading rules.

If they were introduced other clubs would never be able to catch up.


As another source of income isn't our shirt sponsorship much lower than the Dippers and Manure.

 

[Royaloak]

The OP has it right - this is changing the rules retrospectively and as such would leave itself open to the mother and father of all legal challenges. UEFA would have to take on the state of Abu Dhabi through the European Courts and every piece of dirty washing and every piece of inconsistency would be laid bare.

In a nutshell, the governing authority of any body cannot lead its members to take a particular course of action, either by it's 'rule-book' or, by ignoring a specific course/staying silent on action which it believes to be unacceptable in the light of future rule changes and in doing so cause financial damage as a result. Even without 'malice aforethought', a change in the rules which penalises retrospectively would be deemed unlawful.

In the UK, it would probably break Statute law and would definitely break Common Law. In Europe, where the social bleeding hearts dominate, it must break dozens of laws.

The strategy so far has been 'softly, softly', but if the article is true, I'd expect an immediate repositioning to a wholly more ruthless and belligerent stance. Bring it on.