Milan dangle Pato in front of Mancini in Adebayor swap deal

monk1976 said:
simon23 said:
Here is a strange thought!!!!!

Why not get behind Ade????????

The grass isnt always greener on the other side....Ade is a world class striker and easily good enough to get us where we want to go.

Why every time a city player is out for a period of time do we suddenly start fueling the media by believing (and agreeing with ) some of the crap that they write.?????

Sure Pato is a good player...but Ade has proved he can handle the prem...Pato would be a risk as ther is n guarantee he would adapt whereas we know ade ican play..(i know you could use that arguement about Messi and of course id want him)....but the player we have now (ade) is already good enough for what we want

Its annoying that fans on here seem to turn against the players at the slightest thing....the word fickle springs t mind!!!!!...some people on here are like spoilt children...never happy with what the have and always wanting the best and newest toy.

Its alos very very sad that I predicted this would happen with Ade a few weeks back....and have mentioned it several time since


Keep Ade...get him playing regularly and he will score a bagfull

We have ade balo and tev....all top class strikers...we need a back up maybe (though the kids could do that)......

To be honest mate he CAN handle it, and he can score goals. But, for me at least its not about a new toy, its about the team. Too many times last year he blew hot and very fucking cold. Whether pato is needed or not i dunno but i think ade's head is elsewhere anyway now


whether he an handle it or not is really irrelevant.

if ade's head has been elsewhere its because he hasnt been playing ....he is injured for christs sake!!!!....i dont understand how people are coming to this conclusion that he is concentrated on playing for city anyway....is everyone on here a trained psychologist/psychotherapist!?!?!?!?

In fact contrary to this and accroding to NMT's training reports...he was saying Ade was unplayable at times last week....that says to me that the player is fully focused on gettting back in the team.
 
twinkletoes said:
pee dubya said:
Well, i think it's a flawed bit of thinking anyway, no offence, but Brazilians have only really started coming into the league recently, it's a different culture of football and produces different type of player, i think gradually they'll get used to it and also the clubs will get used to picking the right players to come in. I mean, Brazil exports the largest number of footballers than any other country, to all over the World, it's not like they're not used to adapting. I'd blame the clubs for choosing the wrong ones more than anything.

Denilson does ok for Arsenal too.


OK I understand that but we have been royally stung when it comes to Brazillians.

All without exception have been failures in some way or another.

Yeah i know, with a bit research they could have been avoided though, i mean Elano was bought off youtube and Robinho was just an expensive statement of intent, bought because he was available, not really a researched and thought through football signing.
 
pee dubya said:
twinkletoes said:
OK I understand that but we have been royally stung when it comes to Brazillians.

All without exception have been failures in some way or another.

Yeah i know, with a bit research they could have been avoided though, i mean Elano was bought off youtube and Robinho was just an expensive statement of intent, bought because he was available, not really a researched and thought through football signing.

harsh, they both delivered, just not consistantly because they didn't have the mentality/were badly managed.
 
simon23 said:
monk1976 said:
To be honest mate he CAN handle it, and he can score goals. But, for me at least its not about a new toy, its about the team. Too many times last year he blew hot and very fucking cold. Whether pato is needed or not i dunno but i think ade's head is elsewhere anyway now


whether he an handle it or not is really irrelevant.

if ade's head has been elsewhere its because he hasnt been playing ....he is injured for christs sake!!!!....i dont understand how people are coming to this conclusion that he is concentrated on playing for city anyway....is everyone on here a trained psychologist/psychotherapist!?!?!?!?

In fact contrary to this and accroding to NMT's training reports...he was saying Ade was unplayable at times last week....that says to me that the player is fully focused on gettting back in the team.

Yes it is cos he's not been playing, BUT he isnt going to play every week when fit is he?

Have i claimed to be a psychologist, I'm not going into his head i'm going off quotes that hes come out with. Saying if he doesnt play hes going.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
pee dubya said:
Yeah i know, with a bit research they could have been avoided though, i mean Elano was bought off youtube and Robinho was just an expensive statement of intent, bought because he was available, not really a researched and thought through football signing.

harsh, they both delivered, just not consistantly because they didn't have the mentality/were badly managed.

Harsh but true i think. I'm not saying they weren't good players, Robinho can be a brilliant player, just i wouldn't consider them astute signings. I always got the feeling Hughes didn't really want Robinho, he benefited from his ability, but he didn't want the attitude that came with it. If Hughes wasn't willing to pander to Robinho, then it wasn't a good signing. I think anyone who knew Robinho well could have told us what sort of environment he needed to flourish in, and it wasn't what we had at the time.

What went on with Elano is hard to tell, but we were warned by someone (maybe the Shakhtar coach?) that he could be disruptive. In his first season Sven was the kind of manager who would get the best out of him, but then in our team at the time everything went through him and Petrov, no-one else really provided much going forwards, the teams focused on them, shut them down, the team suffered, confidence went, then the last few months were complete shambles. I don't think Hughes ever liked him, a similar situation to Robinho.
 

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