SWP's back said:Based on what research? It's just that up until 100 years or so ago, we were marrying off 12 and 13 year olds and have been doing for over 250,000 years.Ducado said:Skashion said:I really don't know if I can be arsed getting into this. It might be time to put on by bi-annual interest and fuck off rather than sketch out my vision of a libertarian society - with so much freedom most people would shit themselves.
To be honest I think you would change your opinion if you had children, I don't if you ever will (it's not my buisiness) but if you do you will realise that even the most mature of 15 year old girls are not capable of disentangling emotions, the guy should have known this
What about Spain with its age of consent of 13? Are they just savages?
-- Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:40 pm --
Second time I have seen this homophobic comment. Yes. I would, why wouldn't I? What point are you trying to make?BELLENDER said:If it had been a fithteen year old boy would you still think the same?Rascal said:So much of this debate in my opinion is about law and hard nosed facts.
But little has been said about the possibility that these two people are actually in love and clearly seeked to make a life together because of that.
If they are in love how can anyone moralise on there love.
I hope if they are they can weather the storm thats surrounding them and make a happy life together
I thought Spain was a strict Catholic country. That age of consent can't possibly be correct.SWP's back said:The age of consent is not really anything I have given consideration to since I was about 17 so I don't know hilts, as I say, I was 13 first time, as was she, no one died, got in trouble. I wouldn't know whether Spain were progressive or back ward, I tend to look at the Yanks and want to do the opposite of whatever they have gone for.
Ducado said:SWP's back said:Based on what research? It's just that up until 100 years or so ago, we were marrying off 12 and 13 year olds and have been doing for over 250,000 years.Ducado said:To be honest I think you would change your opinion if you had children, I don't if you ever will (it's not my buisiness) but if you do you will realise that even the most mature of 15 year old girls are not capable of disentangling emotions, the guy should have known this
What about Spain with its age of consent of 13? Are they just savages?
-- Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:40 pm --
Second time I have seen this homophobic comment. Yes. I would, why wouldn't I? What point are you trying to make?BELLENDER said:If it had been a fithteen year old boy would you still think the same?
You keep going on about the age of consent like if it was lower it would have been perfectly OK for a teacher to run off with one of his students!
The point about the age being lower in different eras was, it was about survival, women used to have 12 or 13 children they had to start early, it did not matter if they were mentally mature enough as long as they could give birth.
Maybe actually do your research instead of letting us know what is not going on in your head:2sheikhs said:I thought Spain was a strict Catholic country. That age of consent can't possibly be correct.SWP's back said:The age of consent is not really anything I have given consideration to since I was about 17 so I don't know hilts, as I say, I was 13 first time, as was she, no one died, got in trouble. I wouldn't know whether Spain were progressive or back ward, I tend to look at the Yanks and want to do the opposite of whatever they have gone for.
2sheikhs said:I thought Spain was a strict Catholic country. That age of consent can't possibly be correct.SWP's back said:The age of consent is not really anything I have given consideration to since I was about 17 so I don't know hilts, as I say, I was 13 first time, as was she, no one died, got in trouble. I wouldn't know whether Spain were progressive or back ward, I tend to look at the Yanks and want to do the opposite of whatever they have gone for.
I fucking howled with laughter. Should check the age of consent in the Vatican...SWP's back said:Maybe actually do your research instead of letting us know what is not going on in your head:
Good post Rascal, I think many are missing that possibility, even though he should never have allowed it to happen, sometimes it just does.Rascal said:So much of this debate in my opinion is about law and hard nosed facts.
But little has been said about the possibility that these two people are actually in love and clearly seeked to make a life together because of that.
If they are in love how can anyone moralise on there love.
I hope if they are they can weather the storm thats surrounding them and make a happy life together
In that case then SWP, to answer your earlier question, yes they are savages.SWP's back said:Weird that we know better than evolution.
And Ducado, for the last time, the age of consent discussion is a side discussion that is linked with the topic due to our hang 'em high fathers repeatedly calling him a paedo.
No one is saying she would be legal at 15, we are aware of the teacher/student rules. Can you stop labouring the point. I am not missing any point, nor am I confused.
-- Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:52 pm --
Maybe actually do your research instead of letting us know what is not going on in your head:2sheikhs said:I thought Spain was a strict Catholic country. That age of consent can't possibly be correct.SWP's back said:The age of consent is not really anything I have given consideration to since I was about 17 so I don't know hilts, as I say, I was 13 first time, as was she, no one died, got in trouble. I wouldn't know whether Spain were progressive or back ward, I tend to look at the Yanks and want to do the opposite of whatever they have gone for.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ageofconsent.com/spain.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ageofconsent.com/spain.htm</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe</a>
It was 12 until 1999.
2sheikhs said:In that case then SWP, to answer your earlier question, yes they are savages.SWP's back said:Weird that we know better than evolution.
And Ducado, for the last time, the age of consent discussion is a side discussion that is linked with the topic due to our hang 'em high fathers repeatedly calling him a paedo.
No one is saying she would be legal at 15, we are aware of the teacher/student rules. Can you stop labouring the point. I am not missing any point, nor am I confused.
-- Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:52 pm --
Maybe actually do your research instead of letting us know what is not going on in your head:2sheikhs said:I thought Spain was a strict Catholic country. That age of consent can't possibly be correct.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ageofconsent.com/spain.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ageofconsent.com/spain.htm</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe</a>
It was 12 until 1999.
So if you had a mature 15 year old daughter and she was doing the same as this girl,but he was say a joiner not a teacher,and they were dating.....Skashion said:I fucking howled with laughter. Should check the age of consent in the Vatican...SWP's back said:Maybe actually do your research instead of letting us know what is not going on in your head: