Agreed, the squads are actually pretty close. Keeper both are shite. Defence both are shite. Midfield is probably about even. Attacking wise they seem to score just as many as we do.
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Chi-town blues
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No they out ran us because non of our supper star forwards care to work hard and bad team selection from pep didn't help the cause.They would of still out run us in that first half, even with us being defensive. Our whole attitude stank in that first half.
Agree, I say this about KDB and Sterling but get shot down all the time. Aguero isn't as clinical as he used to be :(Will never conquer Europe with De Bruyne, Sterling and (this version of) Aguero playing prominent roles in the team. And that's not to mention the backline and Fernandinho.
Aguero, for a world class forward, missed a ridiculous amount of chances. De Bruyne disappears up his own arse when he has to deal with aggression and athleticism. Sometimes his final ball is his saving grace but tonight it wasn't. And Sterling as good as he has been, also is far far too wasteful. It sounds harsh but to compete at the top table with the style of football we play, we need players in the final third who are as clinical as their counterparts at Barcelona, Real and Bayern. And we also need major work in the obvious areas.
No they out ran us because non of our supper star forwards care to work hard and bad team selection from pep didn't help the cause.
Yep and the added bonus of completely going against Pep's game plan (not pressurising Monaco) either. One collective fuck up.
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The most annoying thing about the loss isn't that we were outplayed it was the fact that the players we know only showed up at around the 60min mark... and no it wasn't just that Monaco were tiring, our players are older and we didn't even attack them in the first half so how do you work that one out? We lost the game mentally before it even kicked off, all in that first half conceding 2 goals allowing them to overrun us with numbers(Stones left out numbered too many times by his team mates, that's what happens when you have fullbacks who can join in attacks), Pep tried to drill it into them but it obviously didn't work(you can't blame Pep he highlighted it in his press conference it wasn't overlooked he warned them all... Don't go into the game to hold onto what you've got).
We didn't lose it in the home leg either we went to Monaco with a lead, not even needing to win: To get a draw or concede less than 3 and get 1 goal ourselves is not a mountain, neither is scoring 2 goals (we actually should have on the chances we had despite every bad thing you can say about the overall performance) which would have killed the tie off since they weren't half as good as they were in the first tie either, we were just way further below where we were that night than them.
We didn't lose it in the home leg either we went to Monaco with a lead, not even needing to win: To get a draw or concede less than 3 and get 1 goal ourselves is not a mountain, neither is scoring 2 goals (we actually should have on the chances we had despite every bad thing you can say about the overall performance) which would have killed the tie off since they weren't half as good as they were in the first tie either, we were just way further below where we were that night than them.
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nellyonthewing
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The surprise is we got this far before the sticking plaster holding this team together fell off.
Agreed Monaco jumped all over us and we didn't/couldn't respond
What are you talking about....we absolutely dominated them in the second half.
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That first half, WTF.... I couldn't decide if we were shite or they were that good, it was like playing against 7 Thierry Henrys at times. They were berluddy good, fast as shit.
That was in the top 3 worst 1st halves of the season with Everton , Leicester away.
ALL of our major players were simply shite..... We came out as a team.....slow, lethargic, no enthusiasm, weren't we supposed to be on the front foot and get that crucial away goal?....I didn't get it, We'd slag off MP for exactly the same every other week. It's a quarter final of the CL ffs, I didn't think we'd get this from a Pep team.
KDB, Silva, Dinho.....all giving it away time after time, half a yard sloer to every other ball. The players you rely on for big games like this. We couldn't pass it 5 fkin yards. ....No sub to change it, for me , Yaya for Sterling on 30 mins, push KDB up.
Pep simply doesn't like an early sub, no subs at HT.....sheihks head.
Thankfully it wasn't Bravo in net as it would have been 3, 4 nil at HT and tie over.
Sterling, jeez, I hate to single him out but I think winston said it best , what a frustrating player. I think you can tell what game he's going to have in the first 15 mins of a game....either a world beater, unplayable on his day, or a donkey, their simply doesn't seem any in between with him. Tonight, pretty much a donkey.
2nd half, we at least made a game of it, had enough chances to actually win it BUT we didnt take our chances, the story of our season.
Aguero chance was probably a pen after he hit it, got clattered like Sevilla player did for there pen, butwe don't even attempt the "dark arts" so never an option the win at all costs approach.
THE most annoying part of the 2nd half was that winning goal freekick for them imo.
WHY OH WHY OH WHY do u set up a high line from a freekick??? The closer the defenders/attackers are to the keeper the best chance the keeper can come out n punch it or any contact on the keeper its a foul.
I'm in the fkin pub, and the first thing I yell out is " that line is too high"
Why would you give the crosser of the ball a massive gap to ping it into. It makes no sense.
If you sit deep it's an easier cross to deal with. The ball has to be in the air more, keeper has more time to deal with it.
The high line is a Pep thing and I don't get it......like the high pressing line when 2.1 v Chelsea and getting beat 3.2 at home.
It's fkin non sensical tactics for an apparent tactical master.
That's pretty much the ONLY FKIN ATTACK they basically had 2nd half and we laid it on a plate for them. We were battering them 2nd half till that freekick, Willy had nowt to do.
Good luck to them, no "dark arts" to win, they were impressive, I hope they win it. They are gonna get raided for 4, 5, 6, 7 players in the Summer.
What an academy, or scouting system they have. We will be wanking for our 100 million spent if Roberts, Diaz, Maffeo, Sancho etc etc make a sub appearance whilst these boys tonight are running rings around us for next to fuck all in front of 15k fans every other week.
It's now ALL about now lifting them up for the Liverpool game. It can still be a good season, but unless we win the league, highly unlikely now, a great season. ( assuming we can't catch Chelsea of course)
Top 3/4 and FA cup win will be a good season.
Let's deal in facts. We finished 4th last season and won the League cup, then spent 165 million to improve on that.
We've bent over backwards and parted our cheeks for Pep.
I haven't seen anything so far for the squad/money he's spent to separate him from Mancini/ MP.....so far.
Looks like it's gonna take another 150m for a new back 3/4 out of 5?
Thank god we're loaded, thank you Sheihk Mansour!
That was in the top 3 worst 1st halves of the season with Everton , Leicester away.
ALL of our major players were simply shite..... We came out as a team.....slow, lethargic, no enthusiasm, weren't we supposed to be on the front foot and get that crucial away goal?....I didn't get it, We'd slag off MP for exactly the same every other week. It's a quarter final of the CL ffs, I didn't think we'd get this from a Pep team.
KDB, Silva, Dinho.....all giving it away time after time, half a yard sloer to every other ball. The players you rely on for big games like this. We couldn't pass it 5 fkin yards. ....No sub to change it, for me , Yaya for Sterling on 30 mins, push KDB up.
Pep simply doesn't like an early sub, no subs at HT.....sheihks head.
Thankfully it wasn't Bravo in net as it would have been 3, 4 nil at HT and tie over.
Sterling, jeez, I hate to single him out but I think winston said it best , what a frustrating player. I think you can tell what game he's going to have in the first 15 mins of a game....either a world beater, unplayable on his day, or a donkey, their simply doesn't seem any in between with him. Tonight, pretty much a donkey.
2nd half, we at least made a game of it, had enough chances to actually win it BUT we didnt take our chances, the story of our season.
Aguero chance was probably a pen after he hit it, got clattered like Sevilla player did for there pen, butwe don't even attempt the "dark arts" so never an option the win at all costs approach.
THE most annoying part of the 2nd half was that winning goal freekick for them imo.
WHY OH WHY OH WHY do u set up a high line from a freekick??? The closer the defenders/attackers are to the keeper the best chance the keeper can come out n punch it or any contact on the keeper its a foul.
I'm in the fkin pub, and the first thing I yell out is " that line is too high"
Why would you give the crosser of the ball a massive gap to ping it into. It makes no sense.
If you sit deep it's an easier cross to deal with. The ball has to be in the air more, keeper has more time to deal with it.
The high line is a Pep thing and I don't get it......like the high pressing line when 2.1 v Chelsea and getting beat 3.2 at home.
It's fkin non sensical tactics for an apparent tactical master.
That's pretty much the ONLY FKIN ATTACK they basically had 2nd half and we laid it on a plate for them. We were battering them 2nd half till that freekick, Willy had nowt to do.
Good luck to them, no "dark arts" to win, they were impressive, I hope they win it. They are gonna get raided for 4, 5, 6, 7 players in the Summer.
What an academy, or scouting system they have. We will be wanking for our 100 million spent if Roberts, Diaz, Maffeo, Sancho etc etc make a sub appearance whilst these boys tonight are running rings around us for next to fuck all in front of 15k fans every other week.
It's now ALL about now lifting them up for the Liverpool game. It can still be a good season, but unless we win the league, highly unlikely now, a great season. ( assuming we can't catch Chelsea of course)
Top 3/4 and FA cup win will be a good season.
Let's deal in facts. We finished 4th last season and won the League cup, then spent 165 million to improve on that.
We've bent over backwards and parted our cheeks for Pep.
I haven't seen anything so far for the squad/money he's spent to separate him from Mancini/ MP.....so far.
Looks like it's gonna take another 150m for a new back 3/4 out of 5?
Thank god we're loaded, thank you Sheihk Mansour!
Metalartin
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One more thing there's really no point in doing extra time in the modern game, especially for us how they decided there was only 3mins of stoppages I do not know. They wasted the majority of the time that was given and he blew his whistle with time still on the clock when we had the ball. Might not have made a difference but it's the principle of the matter. What's the point of it when the team with the advantage is allowed to do that and they never put enough time on to make a difference even if it's warranted?