Monaco post match

Just watched the BT sports highlights. The co-commentator said, after falco's chip "that goal is good enough for Monaco to win this tie". Would he have said that if it was against the rags or the dippers? No way! Against any other English side? No
 
80s Shorts said:
Did the keeper move the ball in a different trajectory and also keep his feet close to the ground after making contact with the ball and before making any sort of contact with Kun ? Yes he did.

Debatable pen for me. Scum would probably have been awarded it unless playing Barca or Real but it is what it is. We didn't need it in the end so alls good. Ridiculous booking though.
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As clear a penalty as you will ever see!! Are you for real ???
 
80s Shorts said:
I thought the Ref did ok. On the Kun pen debate, the replay clearly shows the keeper touched and moved the ball in a different direction before making any contact.
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Even so, anywhere else on the pitch, that would still be a foul as he did not do anywhere enough to disposess a player and then took him out afterwards.
 
80s Shorts said:
Did the keeper move the ball in a different trajectory and also keep his feet close to the ground after making contact with the ball and before making any sort of contact with Kun ? Yes he did.

Debatable pen for me. Scum would probably have been awarded it unless playing Barca or Real but it is what it is. We didn't need it in the end so alls good. Ridiculous booking though.
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I thought he touched the ball too but is that enough?

Does anyone know the rule on this for definite? For me, even if the goalie gets the slightest touch on it, he hasn't actually won the ball. Aguero is still in possession of the ball in the immediate aftermath of the tackle and the goalie is now stranded on the floor. The goalie takes Aguero out and stops a likely goal.

I think someone also mentioned Aguero starts to go down before the contact is made. I think that's pretty harsh as there's absolutely no way by that point that the keeper wasn't taking him down. If he stays on his feet and fully let's the contact happen when they're still on the ground at full speed then it could be a lot more painful for both of them.

A penalty for me and most definitely not a yellow card.
 
It was 100% a penalty and the keeper took him down.

To book him for diving is rubbing salt in the wounds. Why do our HONEST players I.e Aguero and Sterling, never get given fouls in the box? Instead they get accused of being cheats.
 
whos_kompany85 said:
As much as it pains me to say he starts going down a split second before contact is made. It's the kind of 'winning/gaining' a penalty that I don't like to see.
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What is he supposed to do though, let the keeper plough straight through him and potentially take a serious injury?
 
Bazzmand Show said:
What is he supposed to do though, let the keeper plough straight through him and potentially take a serious injury?
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My view on this is that one thing I cannot understand is why in football people think that possible foul incidents can only have a binary outcome. It's entirely possible to get fouled and dive/exaggerate at the same time. Something that has been acknowledged in other sports for years now. I think a penalty and a yellow for Subasic and a yellow for Aguero would have been a good decision.
 
Otamendi's Beard said:
It was 100% a penalty and the keeper took him down.

To book him for diving is rubbing salt in the wounds. Why do our HONEST players I.e Aguero and Sterling, never get given fouls in the box? Instead they get accused of being cheats.
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It's not 100% at all. Watch it on TV. Keeper gets the ball first but then takes out Aguero. Keepers seem to be able to take a forward out if they get a bit of the ball. To my mind that is still a foul. It's not a dive, but it's not clear cut. The ref actually got most things right. What he got wrong was booking Aguero.
 
Marvin said:
It's not 100% at all. Watch it on TV. Keeper gets the ball first but then takes out Aguero. Keepers seem to be able to take a forward out if they get a bit of the ball. To my mind that is still a foul. It's not a dive, but it's not clear cut. The ref actually got most things right. What he got wrong was booking Aguero.
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I've watched it on the TV. It's a penalty.
 
Otamendi's Beard said:
It was 100% a penalty and the keeper took him down.

To book him for diving is rubbing salt in the wounds. Why do our HONEST players I.e Aguero and Sterling, never get given fouls in the box? Instead they get accused of being cheats.
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Watch it on TV highlights. You might change your opinion. Ref had a good game. Very strict but applied rules correctly and consistently. One error was booking Aguero.
 
Bastards. I had Stones last goal at 50/1.
After Falcao's stunning chip, our 5th was the best goal of the night. Beautiful move.
Silva was mesmerising, again. Such a terrier with total control.
Sane has the balance of Darcey Bussell and when in full flow is a joy to watch.
Get Zabba on.
 
Marvin said:
Watch it on TV highlights. You might change your opinion. Ref had a good game. Very strict but applied rules correctly and consistently. One error was booking Aguero.
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I've seen every highlight going. It's a clear penalty and would be given 99% of the time for anyone else.
 
Just seen a replay for the first time. Definitely a pen for me.

Some say he goes down a millisecond before contact in an ultra slow mo replay, but that's bollocks. Count to 1 in your head and then imagine a millisecond.

Even most rags are saying it was a pen and think it's funny that it wasn't given and the BT lot & media mostly thought it was a pen as well.
 
Ok, Sterling was reported as missing the next game if he had been booked, on UEFA (booooooooooo, let it go) its reported he has just two bookings and I take it that means he isn't suspended. However two Monaco players now have three yellows after last night, Jemerson and Kamil Glik, can someone confirm these two will miss the next leg?
 
Unbelievable, everyone and their rag parents, Monaco and the French press included, admitting it's a penalty and a few deluded blues in here trying to suggest otherwise.

There was clear contact in the box with Aguero through on goal. It's a free kick anywhere else on the park. There, it's a penalty and red card for the keeper.

It's as clear cut as it gets.
 
The referee guidance on fouls is simple, if you touch the ball yet fail to disposess the player (ie. make sufficient contact for the player to pivot and change direction) and take them out its a foul. It also matters not a jot where the foul takes place or who makes the challenge.

Penalty.
 
Trying to think of a better game of football i've seen at the etihad, im struggling.

Oh, have all the lurking rags in the match thread been banned? Fucking loads of the wankers.
 
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