More student protests

Halfpenny said:
slicky202 said:
sad but true. everything comes with a price and to get the government to listen you have to be as inconvenient as possible. if violence is the only way then it has to be done, that being said i don't think poxy students have the right to protest until they have contributed. so either work a couple of years and save to go to uni or get in debt and STFU
Your elegibility to protest is based on tax contributions now is it? I despair. Fact is, saving or not the vast majority of students will come out of uni with some form of debt. I'm prepared to contribute to my education, I am obviously going to be benefiting long term from it. However the tripling of fees will create a two tier system, a better deal for the rich who can pay it back immediately and a worse deal for the poor who have market rate interest tagged onto the end. Calling people with a circa £30k debt to the state 'tax dodgers' just doesn't make sense, if they're paying for the privilege of having a graduate job they're paying higher income tax on top of their student loan. Don't forget; the previous generation of students had university paid for entirely by the state. No debts, nothing. If you want tax dodgers you look elsewhere. One of them even bankrolls the Conservative Party.


perhaps it will separate the wheat from the chaff. and get rid of the fcukers who go to uni for "life experience" and yes while i contribute my voice should be louder than those who dont. ( not specifically aimed at students)
 
I went to a good grammar school many years ago and had the choice to stay on at school in the 6th form then go on to Uni if I wanted. I chose not to, left school, worked hard and got a decent job which I've been doing in one guise or another for the last 30 years. I'm not rich by any means but enjoy what I do, I'm good at it. My company however have been forced to enable the country to survive and stop making people redundant to ask us all to take a pay cut of 5% which we did. It will take me approx 2 years to get back to my previous pay grade if and it's a big if the economic climate changes and my firm can afford pay rises. It will cost me for the next few years but there's not a lot I can do about that, rather enable 5 others to keep their jobs and get a bit less myself than see them down the road.
Everyone is having it tough at the moment and it isn't going to change anytime soon what pisses me off is students banging on about how hard done to they are, ffs they haven't lived yet. Get on with it and stop whining.<br /><br />-- Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:07 am --<br /><br />
nashark said:
Chris Mac said:
Yes the taxpayer funded their education, their rich parents allowed them the money to go out on the piss all the time.

You have to pay for your second degree. I don't see the problem with them staying at university.

Sorry you're right, her parents paid for her second and third degrees. Do you know what she does for a living now? She works in a garden centre as an assistant. Absolutely cock all to do with any of the degrees she took. I asked her why she worked there when she has all those qualifications...her answer was I like working with flowers, plants and stuff.She earns £7-50 ph, her extended education did her a lot of good didn't it?
 
Some students are still inside Roscoe Theatre B and are having an open meeting at 11AM regarding what will happen from here, interesting.

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I wonder how many people in this thread read the Daily Mail. I suggest some of you have a quick glimpse today in the readers comments section about students, you'll be surprised at how close your posts are.
 
How about this then.

You pay for your exams and qualifications only. Therefore if you are just after "education" for the love of it you can get that education to degree standard free of charge. However if you want the qualification in order to get the highest paid jobs you pay for it.
 
johnmc said:
How about this then.

You pay for your exams and qualifications only. Therefore if you are just after "education" for the love of it you can get that education to degree standard free of charge. However if you want the qualification in order to get the highest paid jobs you pay for it.

I had similar thoughts along those lines in as much as to pay based on the higher your grades the less you'd pay. Would also give incentive to achieve.
 
Has anyone noticed the media rarely give any air time to anyone who doesn't sound like a spoilt little rich kid in a designer scarf, dressed head to toe in clothes that look like they cost more than their student loans to look like they were bought from a charity shop, with middle class snobby accents whining about being oppressed? Or wearing one of them Palestinian looking neckscarf things i'm assuming to look militant or sympathetic of some political cause they have latched onto?

Clearly trying to portray this as the self-indulgence of privileged youth which won't fair well with your average Sun reader or the huge demographic of workers who aren't middle class but would like to see students, scroungers and immigrants burned, tortured and made to work in the pit.

Fair play to the students, whatever their background, for actually standing up to the government rather than just moaning about it cluelessly and repeating what they've heard on the news.
 
To be honest I was lucky paying only £3K a year but I had no problem with it whatsoever and i'd have no problem paying £9K because its something you CHOOSE to do to help your future career, you don't have to do it! Why should the people who decide they don't want to go to uni who actually put something back into society by getting a job have to pay for those twats with their taxes! Why should police officers, dinner ladys, street cleaners all work, pay tax just so they can get a free education and then look down on the very people who paid for it??

They use the excuse that 'Nick Clegga and Cameron got a free education' well my dad said that in the past only about 10% of people got into uni so if they were happy to go back to that scenario then i'm sure it could be done for free!

They really piss me off though, standing in front of traffic and ruining bus stops, vandalising everything when they have given NOTHING back to soceity, they have done fuck all but they think people respect them! I've always hated students, even when I was one!
 

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