I'm no left winger mate trust me but I do believe in a just and fair society and I don't lay awake at night frothing at the mouth because my taxes are going to someone in need.
Like disability, benefits for the jobless and any fraud involved costs far less to this country than the sheer incompetence of government departments does on a yearly basis. The government could tackle that, keep it in house with civil servants on real affordable wages able to do the job in hand and bring some huge savings but they won't.
Instead it's an attack on the poor and needy amongst us in society, helped by a media that loves to stick the knife in as morning TV will show on a daily basis and a public brainwashed into hating them, something all politicians are good at doing and a continuation of awarding huge contracts to private companies that are never able to do what's being asked, on time and on budget.
This is a policy driven by a cruel ideology, end of.
Were they waving their ill-gotten blue badges about as well?
Its not though is it. David Cameron and IDS are not cruel men. They are decent family men honestly trying to do their best for this country.
I don't get chance to see morning TV shows as I am work so I cant comment.
On this and other issues they are cruel and heartless.
There is no money being saved, I've shown you that so what is the point in this policy?
Please don't tell me years down the line because in years down the line, Costs to implement this policy and new contracts to private companies will yet again wipe out any potential savings and government own incompetence in house will go unchallenged and unabated with the cost to society that brings.
Why can't you see that?
Why can't you see that this country cant afford the unprecedented rise in disability payments and fragrant abuse of the system? Is it acceptable that 70% of claimant's had never even received an independent medical assessment?
Should we just have let the numbers claiming keep on and on rising year on year? There is a model which shows the initial cost of the reviews by 2016 will be significant but this will reduce thereafter so yes my argument about years down the line does stand. Of course it does.
You started by claiming a £2B + saving and I showed you that was false. Now it's the long term savings that won't materialize for reasons I've stated. This or any other government department doesn't do effiency and savings under any party in charge, just look at the MOD for proof!
We spend far more on government incompetency than we ever do on fraud, fact. That doesn't excuse the fraud but ita brings it into perspective when they claim they will stamp it out once and for all and save money. They won't, they can't, again fact.
To rub salt into the wound they now spend even more feathering the nests of private companies who have track records worldwide of incompetence, fraud, corruption and a failure to keep on budget and get the job done. ATOS walked away after making huge profits unable to do what they got paid for and Maximus will do the same and this government will continue to make the same mistakes bases on a cruel ideology.
Yeah fuck it. Let's spend a few billion on a nuclear deterrent that no one pays attention to or put up the entitled tossers we were all stupid enough to elect for a few days in a hotel, first class 5 star naturally, send some more dough overseas, and let the ones in need starve. Great plan.Sick of hearing about ETON - what a weak argument. The benefits culture led to an unprecedented rise in disability payments - it was costing this country £13 billion a year and needed to be resolved. For fuck save even Blair was going to do it. It rose 30% in 5 years. The country cannot afford it. Have you seen our defecit???
I don't think you did show it was false. You posted a link to a left wing paper. You keep quoting cruel ideology "feathering the nests" etc which is absolute bollox so no point carrying on this debate. Your mind is clearly made up.
That's the problem with every government, not just this one. They start with good intentions but simply don't have the management skills to deliver those. Most ministers have never had a proper, wealth-creating job where they've had to deliver major change projects. They're lawyers or career politicians. Then they react to various media stimuli and come up with short-term, half-baked solutions.The problem with EVERYTHING this Government does is that everything is done for posture and to make them look good - even the bad things like cuts austerity measures.
Nothing they do is fully thought through to the very end and costed accordingly.
Yeah fuck it. Let's spend a few billion on a nuclear deterrent that no one pays attention to or put up the entitled tossers we were all stupid enough to elect for a few days in a hotel, first class 5 star naturally, send some more dough overseas, and let the ones in need starve. Great plan.
I'm not left or right, religion has a place but I don't subscribe to it, centrist and agnostic if anything, You're making excuses for the inexcusable. Surely you can see that fucking over the ones who need it is bullshit. People may take the piss and that's a different issue. Making people pass certain tests to get a few quid isn't right, if they need it, they need it. That crawling example before shocked me.
Meanwhile all those career politician cunts get rich from the public purse. Excellent.
So the £1.6B cost over the next three years compares to the £1B in actual payments in benefit is bollox?
Public money going to ATOS and now Maximus is bollox?
Well documented losses through department incompetency is bollox?
Meanwhile, people are being treated like shit and made to jump through hoops by a private company knowing they can make more money by turning a claim down is bollox is it?
That's the problem with every government, not just this one. They start with good intentions but simply don't have the management skills to deliver those. Most ministers have never had a proper, wealth-creating job where they've had to deliver major change projects. They're lawyers or career politicians. Then they react to various media stimuli and come up with short-term, half-baked solutions.
Yeah fuck it. Let's spend a few billion on a nuclear deterrent that no one pays attention to or put up the entitled tossers we were all stupid enough to elect for a few days in a hotel, first class 5 star naturally, send some more dough overseas, and let the ones in need starve. Great plan.
I'm not left or right, religion has a place but I don't subscribe to it, centrist and agnostic if anything, You're making excuses for the inexcusable. Surely you can see that fucking over the ones who need it is bullshit. People may take the piss and that's a different issue. Making people pass certain tests to get a few quid isn't right, if they need it, they need it. That crawling example before shocked me.
Meanwhile all those career politician cunts get rich from the public purse. Excellent.
I didn't say that did I - I said using the phrase cruel ideology is bollox and terms like feathering the nest show me your mind set. So no point debating.
The video of IDS fist-pumping and and cheering when Osborne announced his escalation of the tory's war on the poor showed EXACTLY what his attitude to the less well-off is.
It is saving money in the longer term. You have not factored in the increased taxes being paid by those private company employees you don't seem to like. Nor the taxes paid by those who have to contribute to society rather than rely on benefits.
I see Gideon, the drugged up clown has had a shafting from the bank of England.
A recent report issued to the Bank of England has revealed that the actions of George Osborne may be about to trigger a financial crisis greater than 2007, and once again, it will start in the housing market.
The Chancellor has been aware for some time, that there has been a bubble in the buy-to-let housing market, where people buy properties in order to rent them out. The problem with this market growing too fast, or too big, is that if interest rates on the mortgages go up, it can trigger a mass sell-off. This floods the market with houses, resulting in a sudden crash in prices. This generally triggers a domino effect, as lenders stop lending (slowing the market further), and then the negative equity trap happens where homeowners who may have remortgaged their properties based on the higher market value, or took on a higher mortgage planning to sell on at the higher market value, suddenly find themselves in serious financial distress.
.... http://www.thecanary.co/2016/02/07/...iggered-a-financial-crisis-greater-than-2007/