Motion - the country is completely broken

[Coatigan]

You have made the assumption that people who voted brexit or for the Tories believe it is shite. That’s a pretty big error on your part unless you think you speak for those people.

Ah well then at least half the country is happy. And unaffected by the cost of living crisis.

 

[hilts]

Ah well then at least half the country is happy. And unaffected by the cost of living crisis.

It's less than half but fucking idiots keep voting for tory or Labour or even worse show their angst on a football forum.

If anything will change its the middle income forum posters that will seal the deal.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What if you’ve called Putin a **** on social media? Still safe?

#safe

 

[johnnytapia]

If you mean by changing it, avoiding leaving the EU, that (imo) would have been disastrous, in many ways more disastrous than the consequences we are now bearing witness to. It would certainly have been even more divisive, and once the die was cast we had to (imo) see it through and deal with the consequences, which we now are.

The fact you’ve cited five PM’s in six years is quite telling, given the 37 years that preceded it, a time of pretty much constant economic growth and political stability (within the EU), had exactly the same number.

The people’s choice to which you refer has unleashed forces of chaos and uncertainty which has left us poorly equipped to deal with the challenges that the whole of the western world has faced in recent years, and will continue to do do.

The people chose, and it’s absolutely correct that choice was honoured, but don’t be surprised when people who stridently opposed it feel compelled to point out the predictions they made at the time have become reality, especially when that reality is having such a profound effect on this country and its future standing in the world.

All true and sagacious but I must point out: MPs doesn’t require an apostrophe.
;-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Terrible.

Here is my example from this year.

My mum who lived on her own had a fall. We paid £20 a month for carecall (a council run service) where at the press of a button, someone should come and help. They answered the call with “we haven’t got any staff on tonight so will call an ambulance”…..ambulance turns up 5 hrs later. She has been on the floor for that long! She is taken to hospital and I am now involved.

The A and E department was full and in the middle of the waiting area was a large pool of blood that hadn’t been cleaned. There must been 80 people waiting to be seen. She then had to wait on a trolley with around 20 other people on trolleys in a corridor for 6 more hours until she was seen, so by now it is 11 hours since the fall!

Finally she is seen and put in an observation ward overnight which is yards from the waiting area and she then had to listen to a fight going on in the middle of the night!

She had virtually no care all night and as she couldn’t walk, she couldn’t get to the bathroom. You can imagine. The next day she finally got on a ward and needed to stay in for a week. The doctor said that spending 5 hrs on the floor at that age (74) can be fatal.

She had a very similar experience a couple of months later. Slightly less waiting but not by much.

She died last month at home and 2 days before this she had another fall and as a result of previous experiences, declined to go to hospital. Despite our loss, I’m a comforted that this is the way she went as the thought of her dying on a trolley surrounded by people moaning and groaning is just a hideous one.

This country and the leadership is an absolute shambles currently and there doesn’t seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel.

Really sorry to read that, pal. Could tell you really loved your mum x

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

All true and sagacious but I must point out: MPs doesn’t require an apostrophe.
;-)

And PMs?…

 

[johnnytapia]

And PMs?…

Correct !

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Correct !

My recalcitrance is episodic.

 

[cheekybids]

Terrible.

Here is my example from this year.

My mum who lived on her own had a fall. We paid £20 a month for carecall (a council run service) where at the press of a button, someone should come and help. They answered the call with “we haven’t got any staff on tonight so will call an ambulance”…..ambulance turns up 5 hrs later. She has been on the floor for that long! She is taken to hospital and I am now involved.

The A and E department was full and in the middle of the waiting area was a large pool of blood that hadn’t been cleaned. There must been 80 people waiting to be seen. She then had to wait on a trolley with around 20 other people on trolleys in a corridor for 6 more hours until she was seen, so by now it is 11 hours since the fall!

Finally she is seen and put in an observation ward overnight which is yards from the waiting area and she then had to listen to a fight going on in the middle of the night!

She had virtually no care all night and as she couldn’t walk, she couldn’t get to the bathroom. You can imagine. The next day she finally got on a ward and needed to stay in for a week. The doctor said that spending 5 hrs on the floor at that age (74) can be fatal.

She had a very similar experience a couple of months later. Slightly less waiting but not by much.

She died last month at home and 2 days before this she had another fall and as a result of previous experiences, declined to go to hospital. Despite our loss, I’m a comforted that this is the way she went as the thought of her dying on a trolley surrounded by people moaning and groaning is just a hideous one.

This country and the leadership is an absolute shambles currently and there doesn’t seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel.

Sorry to hear this. It angers me that basic caring is cut over making a quid. To make cut back decisions that affect the vulnerable & earning a bonus must make you a special ****.

 

[johnnytapia]

My recalcitrance is episodic.

So’s Doctor Who.