Motion - the country is completely broken

[bluethrunthru]

I voted to leave. I lived in Germany, am fluent in German and wouldn’t consider myself “thick” or “racist”. I am old though (55). Think it will be longer than ten years before we return. If there’s anything left to return.

You live in Germany. You voted Leave. Leave won. Why on earth would you want the UK to return?

 

[Vic]

You’re not wrong there but I would say 10 years, not 30.

12 years. Since 2010.

 

[Vic]

However, you can walk through central or even inner suburban Moscow at 2.30 am and feel 100% safe. Including if you're a lone female.

Yeah, it's in the home you have to watch out.

https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/5326/what-happened-after-russia-decriminalised-domestic-abuse

Russia's decriminalising of domestic violence means women continue to die

On average, 22 women were killed every day in Russia in 2018, and the problem is getting worse in the pandemic.

www.google.com

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

12 years. Since 2010.

Well yeah that was sort of what I was getting at.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I don’t blame the brainwashed. The brainwashing is well oiled machine.

Everyone gets a vote & yet depending on where you read your news, the gas lighting begins.

I’m over in Aus but on my calls to my elderly parents who worked damned hard, my dad 7 days a week & 12 hours a day to get by are now thinking nurses are cheeky bastards.

They’ve been brainwashed for 80 years as we all have. The lying & deceit & stealing & cheating.

They are compassionate people who’d help anyone but by the time they’ve got to the poling station they have no idea what they’ve voted for.

So democracy, don’t make me laugh. Especially when you are working so hard to make ends meet, the thieving cunts will point at some poor fucker arriving on a dinghy to take your share of fuck all. Obviously not telling you that the family in the dinghy had a middle class lifestyle before being bombed into oblivion & taken over by ISIS.

It’s the same propaganda that makes fans think City have cheated FFP yet no nothing about the rules. The people telling the story have a lot to answer for.

Good post mate. A question that I haven’t seen answered much is why do they report as they do? If it’s to further an agenda then who is setting that agenda? If it’s a mirror being held up about what the populace want to actually read about then god help us all.

 

[Homar]

In a democracy, the people get they government they deserve. At the next election, the options available to you will be an incompetent Tory government or a grossly incompetent Tory-lite government. Meanwhile, the media will be telling you to celebrate the fact you have a “choice”, whilst China supplants the US and western economies continue to recede.

 

[cheekybids]

Good post mate. A question that I haven’t seen answered much is why do they report as they do? If it’s to further an agenda then who is setting that agenda? If it’s a mirror being held up about what the populace want to actually read about then god help us all.

I’ve wondered about that. PR, brand management, spin doctoring, cash for questions, it’s all the same isn’t it.

I’d love to see how the price is agreed.

 

[Vic]

In a democracy, the people get they government they deserve. At the next election, the options available to you will be an incompetent Tory government or a grossly incompetent Tory-lite government. Meanwhile, the media will be telling you to celebrate the fact you have a “choice”, whilst China supplants the US and western economies continue to recede.

Pathetic attempt to justify voting Tory again.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

In a democracy, the people get they government they deserve. At the next election, the options available to you will be an incompetent Tory government or a grossly incompetent Tory-lite government. Meanwhile, the media will be telling you to celebrate the fact you have a “choice”, whilst China supplants the US and western economies continue to recede.

How can you label the opposition “grossly incompetent” when they haven’t been in power for 12 years?

You are the problem. We’ve had 3 years of the most incompetent government in British history -by any measure- and you are still prepared to vote for that again because you can’t think for yourself.

 

[Homar]

Pathetic attempt to justify voting Tory again.

I have never voted Tory and I certainly won’t be doing so at the next election. Unless there is a major change in Labour, starting with its leader, I won’t be voting Labour for the very first time. Both parties will lead the country to ruin. One will get us there slightly faster.