Motion - the country is completely broken

Homar said:
I have never voted Tory and I certainly won’t be doing so at the next election. Unless there is a major change in Labour, starting with its leader, I won’t be voting Labour for the very first time. Both parties will lead the country to ruin. One will get us there slightly faster.
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It's the latest thing.

Allthesamery.
 
Homar said:
In a democracy, the people get they government they deserve. At the next election, the options available to you will be an incompetent Tory government or a grossly incompetent Tory-lite government. Meanwhile, the media will be telling you to celebrate the fact you have a “choice”, whilst China supplants the US and western economies continue to recede.
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My constituency MP is Nadhim Zahawi and at the last GE he got around 60% of the vote. It might drop to 50% at the next GE. What fucking choice do I have?
 
Homar said:
I have never voted Tory and I certainly won’t be doing so at the next election. Unless there is a major change in Labour, starting with its leader, I won’t be voting Labour for the very first time. Both parties will lead the country to ruin. One will get us there slightly faster.
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One has already lead the country to ruin.

Who are you going to vote for then?
 
cheekybids said:
I’m sorry mate I don’t agree with this, obviously there are exceptions to the rules but it’s carefully crafted.

My views have changed massively over the years. I would say my values were always caring, hard working but my outlook was TV & newspapers for years. Then I started reading & listening to different forms, how I think changed that changed where I got my news.

My dad would get his paper & he’ll see Corbyn next to Gerry Adams & that’s it. As easy as that.
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In fairness though that would be your dad's fault not the paper. Everyone and I mean everyone has a bias. It's not hard to work out which papers lean which way. If people believe everything any media outlet tells them or a politician then that's either laziness or the message is one they want to believe.

Come election time the Tories and Labour will come out with all sorts of shit and so will the media. Now the Tories keep getting in but this time they won't.

Have people now become less brain washed? Have they done their homework?

Or is the truth the things that were happening to other people that they chose to ignore has now arrived on their doorstep?
 
Homar said:
In a democracy, the people get they government they deserve. At the next election, the options available to you will be an incompetent Tory government or a grossly incompetent Tory-lite government. Meanwhile, the media will be telling you to celebrate the fact you have a “choice”, whilst China supplants the US and western economies continue to recede.
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I'll not be voting Labour come the next election, though I suspect not for the same reasons as you.

When you state......

the options available to you will be an incompetent Tory government or a grossly incompetent Tory-lite government
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You've no idea whether Labour will be grossly incompetent, I've no idea whether they'll be competent or not, nobody knows.

I worked with a government department from 2001 to 2017. I'm no fan of Blair and Brown but they were political Titans compared to this lot and on the whole government worked, there were the odd ministerial scandals, but that government was a paragon of virtue and a well oiled machine compared to this shambles.

Competence has nothing to do with policy. When you make a statement like grossly incompetent that's your politics showing, nothing more.
 
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