Mourhino is on his way to City.....

Ragnarok said:
BillyShears said:
Ragnarok said:
I wonder who you will be capaigning fogr next season when mourinho doesn't come

Jurgen Klopp ? Not really hard to draw up a quick list of potential replacements for Mancini and it's been done many times before.
When mancini goes (I think he will,in the next two - three seasons) I would much rather klopp or avb than mourinho. I asked this to nipholmes because he acts like mourinho is the only good manager to ever exist

If you search my posts I champion 3 managers.

Jose, Klopp and Del Bosque.

Klopps settled it seems, Del Bosque has a great chance of winning the next world cup in Brazil and Jose is available, hence why I'm championing Jose.

As I said, he has a 67% career win rate which tops Ferguson and Mancini by 10%+.

Says it all. If we want to be the best, then we employ the best. From youth players, to coaches to doctors. Getting the worlds best manager of the current era would go some bloody way to making us top dogs.

If I was a United fan I'd be quaking in my boots imagining a soon to be better squad and a new manager in Jose to commence for the 13/14 season. Maybe Scholes will steady the ship and commit another season...
 
NipHolmes said:
If I was a United fan I'd be quaking in my boots imagining a soon to be better squad and a new manager in Jose to commence for the 13/14 season. Maybe Scholes will steady the ship and commit another season...

Mourinho would scare them for sure, Mancini doesn't scare them and it's not really an attack as not many managers can scare fans of another club. I've noticed that a lot of United fans say they don't fear us like they did Arsenal's Invincible's and Jose's Chelsea, and it's hard to disagree - we have no fear factor at all, no players (or manager in Jose/Chelsea's case) who really terrify the opponents, and lower table teams all think we're there for the taking on their ground now. We should investigate signing Ronaldo before anyone else this summer IMO, it would strike terror in the hearts of all Premier League clubs and when you get that psychological edge many of them fold like an accordion before you. If United signed Ronaldo we'd all be gutted knowing what it means, if we signed him it'd have the same impact on them.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
NipHolmes said:
BillyShears said:
Txiki Bergiristain's job is the hire and fire managers and players mate. That's why he's called the director of football. Khaldoun and the Sheikh aren't going to be paying him millions then going "actually, we don't want your professional opinion on the manager".
Again.

Bobby refuses to accept him and Soriano as 'above' him.

Txiki and Soriano need to be successful on the pitch do be successful in there roles. One building the clubs revenues and the other enticing players here. Jose will help them to do this.
I never saw mancini's comment about that discussed, but I saw it is controversial, even provocative

People don't want to talk about it, just like the Boateng stuff.

Mancini simply doesn't understand management structure and span of control. His ego won't accpet that he is 'beneath' somebody else and he seems adamant on staking his claim for more power. Now I actually think Mancini woudl be better suited spending his time watching teams play in Europe and understanding the tactical approaches and strategies. Instead he sees fit to spend more time blaming people and also watching Italian football. Being as the power-houses of football are actually in Spain and Germany I reckon he should maybe go to one of those countries instead. Both countries appreciate the importance of pace, pressing and also setting up more offensively which will in turn get the best out of our squad.
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
I view this forum as a large pub full of blues with differing opinions thats all. I went to my Grand sons head wetting on saturday in the pub and there were 5 blues there and we debated this exact topic, with pretty much the same out come. Some not wanting to sack Mancini the need for stability etc, and some stating we need to move to the next level and Bobby Manc can't take us there especially in Europe, which I'm sure will ultimately be his downfall. The worst ever performance by an English side in the history of the Champions League lest we forget that, I'm sure our owners won't have!!

Can you imagine walking up to a group of blues discussing the managerial situation, and accusing them of 'destabilising the club', and being 'anti-City'? You'd be laughed out of the place (at best).<br /><br />-- Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:29 pm --<br /><br />
LoveCity said:
NipHolmes said:
If I was a United fan I'd be quaking in my boots imagining a soon to be better squad and a new manager in Jose to commence for the 13/14 season. Maybe Scholes will steady the ship and commit another season...

Mourinho would scare them for sure, Mancini doesn't scare them and it's not really an attack as not many managers can scare fans of another club. I've noticed that a lot of United fans say they don't fear us like they did Arsenal's Invincible's and Jose's Chelsea, and it's hard to disagree - we have no fear factor at all, no players (or manager in Jose/Chelsea's case) who really terrify the opponents, and lower table teams all think we're there for the taking on their ground now. We should investigate signing Ronaldo before anyone else this summer IMO, it would strike terror in the hearts of all Premier League clubs and when you get that psychological edge many of them fold like an accordion before you. If United signed Ronaldo we'd all be gutted knowing what it means, if we signed him it'd have the same impact on them.

Mourinho at City is every United fans worst nightmare.
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
I view this forum as a large pub full of blues with differing opinions thats all. I went to my Grand sons head wetting on saturday in the pub and there were 5 blues there and we debated this exact topic, with pretty much the same out come. Some not wanting to sack Mancini the need for stability etc, and some stating we need to move to the next level and Bobby Manc can't take us there especially in Europe, which I'm sure will ultimately be his downfall. The worst ever performance by an English side in the history of the Champions League lest we forget that, I'm sure our owners won't have!!

The need for stability is the most over used and stupid comment in football IMO. Real stability comes at board level and with us having a brilliant owner and chairman and a CEO and DoF who know exactly what they are doing we have all the stability we need.

Swansea and Barcelona are the perfect example of how having the right people at board level is more important to a clubs on going success. Swansea and Barca have constantly brought in managers who have a similar philosophy of football and that ensures that when the new man comes in he only has to make little tweeks to the team.

To counter this Chelsea are the worst example of a lack of managerial stability and I think this is why a lot of fans want to keep Mancini. After all Chelsea have become a laughing stock regarding managers and if we are to believe reports top managers like Klopp and Guardiola don't want to go there. However despite the active change of managers Chelsea have been successful and at the end of the day money talks. The majority of football managers would jump at the chance to manage Chelsea. Also Chelsea let their players run the club by all accounts, it is well documented that Terry, Cech, Lampard and Cole have far to much an input for a player. Its funny because our owners have already showed that the manager will be backed over the player in the Tevez saga and with our owners track record we are nothing like Chelsea.

Managerial stability depends on the ambition of the board, if the club are happy performing how they are then they will keep the man in charge. Everton and Arsenal are perfect examples of how the board would be more than happy if they could repeat last season's performance.

We are in a difficult position because our manager has done a good job so far however we are still a long way away from where our owners want us to be and IMO Mancini looks out of his depth when trying to take us further in Europe. Now if we want to cement our position in challenging for domestic honours then we should keep Bobby but if we want to reach the top and try and dominate football we need to be ruthless and try and get Mourinho in.
 
The cookie monster said:
I'm just glad its less than a dozen posters out of 50'000 who feel this way :)
I can actually smell the unease and uncertainty coming off you ;-)
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The cookie monster said:
I'm just glad its less than a dozen posters out of 50'000 who feel this way :)
I can actually smell the unease and uncertainty coming off you ;-)

Me too! I'm just glad I don't need be in the majority to feel my opinion has some validity. :)
 
BillyShears said:
Didsbury Dave said:
The cookie monster said:
I'm just glad its less than a dozen posters out of 50'000 who feel this way :)
I can actually smell the unease and uncertainty coming off you ;-)

Me too! I'm just glad I don't need be in the majority to feel my opinion has some validity. :)

I knew that would flush you out
Anyway while your here,if you are saying the two spanish boys will run the show without the sheikh having any say so(which i very much doubt btw)

Do you think mourinho would be happy with that,where he would have to run everything past them two
Or would he crave total power?
 
NipHolmes said:
As I said, he has a 67% career win rate which tops Ferguson and Mancini by 10%+.
He's never managed a team longer than a season that finished lower than 3rd (and that was Porto) in the league the season before he took over. That makes a big difference to win ratio stats.

Season before at Porto - 3rd
Season before at Chelsea - 2nd and Champions League semi-finalists
Season before at Inter - 1st
Season before at Real Madrid - 2nd

Both Ferguson and Mancini have had to drag teams a lot further than Mourinho has. I'm not trying to do Mourinho down here. He's the manager most likely in the world to bring short-term success to a club, but you've got to factor in the fact that he's took over clubs in good positions to start with and never had to earn his stripes in the way that Ferguson and Mancini did. Billy is fond of quoting that Mancini is kissed by good fortune. Mourinho had a week-long orgy when you consider win ratio.
 

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